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MOORMAN FAMILY
- Family Group Sheet
- Subject:
Charles
MOORMAN
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
- Research: _______________,
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- Biography: __ ___ ____
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_______________; ...Among the most influential of these Quakers
was Charles Moorman(3) of Louisa County, who married Elizabeth
reynolds. She bore him five children, Thomas(4) (1708-1766),
Judith(4) (Douglas), Ann(4) (Martin), Achilles(4) and Charles(4).
The family purchased considerable land in Albemarle County on and
near Moormans River, a stream named for Thomas (" William and
Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine: "The Moorman
Family of Virginia"; Paullin, Charles O.; 2nd Series, Vol. 12, No.
3 (July 1931), pp. 177-180. Hereinafter cited as "Wm & Mary
Quarterly.")
- Biography: __ ___ ____
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_______________; ...Charles, the other son, lived in Louisa County
near "Green Spring" where he had settled in 1704. He married
Elizabeth Reynolds. They were both devout Quakers, although they
owned slaves. Charles was a Justice of the Peace and with his son,
Thomas, was an overseer of the Society of Friends. Charles died in
1756.
- He had five children by Elizabeth
Reynolds.
- The first was Thomas (1705-1765)
who married Rachel Clark. They lvied in Louisa County ner Green
Spring, but a few years before he died, he and his family moved to
Bedford County where he held large tracts of land. Records at
Bedford show that he first bought land in that County, July 17,
1762. His will is dated July 22, 1765; it was probated in November
of the following year.
- The second child of Charles and
Elizabeth was Judith, who married John Douglas.
- The third child, Charles, married
Mary Adams; the fourth child, Achilles, married Elizabeth Adams
and lived in Bedford County.
- The second son of Rachel and
Thomas Moorman, Micajah (1735) married Susannah Chiles and lived
on land upon which part of Lynchburg now stands. He was one of the
trustees of the City. Micajah (1735-1806) raised his own eleven
children, as well as his sister Elizabeth's sons, Moorman and
Christopher Johnson, after her death. These two nephews afterwards
married Micajah's two daughters. The eldest son, Zachariah, in
1763, settled five miles south of Lynch's Ferry on the James. He
married Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Terrell of Caroline County in
1755. His second wife was Elizabeth Johnson. Many of the Moormans
were disowned by the Society for holding slaves and "marrying out
of unity". Thomas Clark Moorman, with almost his whole family
started migration to the West when he set out in 1755 for the Ohio
Wilderness. Many Quakers followed him later (Brown, Lynchburg's
Pioneer Quakers, pg. 60-61.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
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_______________; CHAS/ELIZ [I begin this with a bit of trepidation
for this is one of the major
- couples in our shared history. So
much is already known about them, one may
- wonder how I expect to write
anything new? I don't. What I intend is a discussion
- of facts without tradition. Thus,
I deliberately do not use the many times
- published traditional sources.
Please bear with me through the tedious
- discussion of changing boundary
lines; this is important to understanding records
- and recognizing other logical
areas to search. It also keeps us from projecting a
- physical move when merely changing
boundary lines is the reason for a sudden
- disappearance from one area and
reappearance in records of another. Earlier I
- identified this man as Charles "M"
(from Rosalie Davis' abstracts of his signature
- or "sign by mark") as a tool
toward keeping the numerous Charles Moormans
- straight. I never intended to
suggest it was his middle initial, but now realize I
- inadvertently created confusion.
Thus, I'm changing to the more traditional:
- Charles Moorman (c1683-1757).
Before I begin, I want to emphasize that the
- FIRST official record of Charles
in Virginia is 1708/9. EVERYTHING (including
- the first four paragraphs of this
report) written about him prior to 1708/9 is based
- entirely on interpretation of a
limited number of actual records; I acknowledge I
- may err in some of my
interpretation. Therefore, comments and rebuttals based
- on interpretation of facts and not
purely on tradition, are welcome. For the record:
- my sole reason for grouping
Charles within the family of Thomas, Andrew and
- Mary is these are the only
MOORMANs in the early VA records. I want to extend
- a special thanks to Mary Stewart
who has generously shared her genealogical
- expertise, data and encouragement
during the writing process. LSS]
- Charles MOORMAN and Elizabeth
REYNOLDS
-
- by Linda Sparks Starr March 1999
-
- I have as many "guesses" for
Charles' birth year (1670 to 1690) as I have
- traditional accounts; the bottom
line is all are guesses, no matter who reported
- the information. My "best guess"
is a more narrowed range: not before 1680 and
- no later than 1684. My reasoning:
Charles appears in St. Paul's vestry records
- before his brother Andrew
(baptized 1689 [1]); therefore I project him the elder of
- the two. With a sister baptized in
1686, Charles' birth is moved backward once
- again. Because he doesn't appear
in processiong records until 1708/9, I think he
- was born after 1680. This also
agrees with what is known about his "probable"
- father, Thomas. [THSMORMA.txt]
Thomas Moorman is found in Blisland Parish
- in 1677 and in St. Peter's Parish
in 1689. St. Peter's was cut off from the upper
- part of Blisland Parish in 1680.
Therefore, with a birth between 1680-1684, we
- can say Charles Moorman was
"probably" born in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent
- County, Virginia.
- There are at least two good
reasons for the lack of birth records for
- Charles: Blisland's birth register
is not extant and St. Peter's doesn't begin until
- 1682. Even then several of the
first few pages are completely missing or have
- many torn places. I project
Charles' birth record is among those missing entries -
- and believe this is the only
reason for lack of his birth record.
- We perhaps have better luck with
Elizabeth REYNOLDS. Although more
- research is called for, I project
the "Eliz. daugh' to Tho. Renalls Bapt 15 of March
- 1690-1" [2] is the same Elizabeth
who married Charles Moorman. Louisa Court
- records identify Charles' wife as
"Elizabeth" and tradition says REYNOLDS.
- Although Tillman and others say
she descends from Christopher Reynolds of Isle
- of Wight Co., VA, I believe Thomas
as her father makes a far stronger case.
- Charles and Elizabeth's marriage
date is problematic, but surely comes
- within the first five years of the
eighteenth century. Tradition says Elizabeth was
- 13 when she married - IF she's the
above Elizabeth baptized March 1690/1
- [1691] that gives them a marriage
date circa 1704. However, the same tradition
- says Charles was 15, thus born
circa 1688. St. Peter's records show the baptism
- of his sister in 1686 and his
brother in 1689. It's possible, but not likely his mother
- would have three children in three
years and his father would fail to register the
- birth of only one. For all the
above reasons, I personally believe Charles was
- born circa1683.
- Every four years the General
Assembly required parish vestries to perform
- a task called "processioning." In
the days before property was fenced, neighbors
- walked their boundary lines with
two neutral overseers as witnesses. In the
- process they re-stacked fallen
marking stones and remarked all those hickory
- and red oak trees seen in early
deeds. This kept boundary disputes from taking
- up court time.
- In 1706 St. Paul's Parish was
created from the upper portion of St. Peter's
- Parish, but both parishes remained
in New Kent County. The first vestry book
- entry regarding processioning
begins "July ye 28th 1708, Ordered that the parish
- be forth[ ]th divided into
precincts for processioning according to law ." [3] The
- order further directed this be
carried out between September 30 and March 31.
- The vestry met that September to
divide into precincts; the results from its 39
- precincts were returned 14 March
1708/9.
- Charles makes his first appearance
in Virginia records in 1708/9 among
- those living in the 19th
processioning precinct: James Tate, Geo. Phillips, Chas
- MOORMAN, Nich: Mills Jr. and Thos
Glass. Tate and Glass were appointed
- precinct overseers that year. [4]
A study of land patents [5] suggests this group of
- neighbors lived near Totopotomoy
Creek, Whiting Swamp and the Pamunkey
- (then called York) River. However,
since so many of these men owned several
- tracts of land, it is difficult to
determine which was the residential tract for any
- single individual.
- In 1711 the vestry appointed three
committees to divide the parish into
- processioning precincts; each
committee was assigned to one large area --
- between "the lower line and
Totopottomoy's Creek"; between "Totopottomoys
- Creek and Machumps Creek"; and
"above Machump's Creek." [6] The returns of
- 30 precincts were reported to the
vestry 17 MAR 1711/12. This time Charles
- lived in the 6th district composed
of: Anthony Winston, Thomas Glass, Jno
- Sanders, widow Winston, John
Brown, Charles Moorman, Nich. Mills, James
- Tate and Geo Phillips. Thus we
know he didn't move; the precinct number
- merely changed. The precinct
number and neighbors remained mostly
- unchanged in the 1716
processioning as well.
- However, Charles' name also
appears in the 15th district with neighbors:
- Edwd Moore, Joseph Baughon, Wm
Bostick, Widd [or Didd] Leak, Simon Woody,
- Chas Bostick, James Woody, Charles
MOORMAN, Chas Brian. Overseers
- Moore and Baughon returned the
list 8 DEC 1711 with notation it was
- "subscribed by all persons except
Moorman." This notation suggests Charles did
- not live on this particular tract,
for was not available to walk the lines with his
- neighbors. The composition of this
new neighborhood is surprisingly similar to
- the 1689 list of neighbors in then
St. Peter's Parish: Char. Brya[], Char. Bostick,
- Chris. Baker, Tho. MOORMAN, Tho.
Snead, Jam. Moor, Edw. Qurill [Dorill]. [7]
- Andrew Moorman makes his only
appearance in St. Paul's Parish records
- in 1716. He is listed among the
same 15th district neighbors where Charles' name
- appeared four years earlier:
Joseph Baughan, Wm Bostock, Edw Moore, Widd:
- Leak, Simon Woody, Walter Leak,
Chas Bostock, Andrew MOORMAN, Jas
- Woody and Chas Brian.
- Based on these three processioning
lists, it is almost too easy to come to
- this logical conclusion: St.
Peter's birth register proves Thomas is father of
- Andrew; thus Thomas is father of
Charles Moorman (c1683-1757). This agrees
- with tradition and all but one of
the earlier researchers. Brother Ambrose thought
- Charles was the son of Zachariah
and Mary. However, I'm very uncomfortable
- with the 23-year gap between the
St. Peter's record showing Thomas Moorman
- living among these neighbors and
the St. Paul's record with Charles and then
- Andrew living in the same
neighborhood.
- Based on these same records, we
can show Thomas REYNOLDS was
- another near neighbor to Thomas
Moorman as was Edward Johnson and various
- SNEADs. (BLDFNTES.txt and
EDWJOHNS.txt) We tend to think of these
- processioning precincts as
distinct neighborhoods, when in fact the lines were
- arbitrarily drawn, often dividing
known family groups. Therefore, to point out a
- pitfall in making assumptions
based on too few records, I present the following
- "What if" scenarios: "WHAT IF
Elizabeth inherited this tract from her father?" As a
- married woman, her husband's name
would appear on all legal records. This
- explains his name on the 1711/12
processioning record. Then "WHAT IF they
- sold this tract to Andrew
Moorman?" Or `WHAT IF Thomas Moorman sold this
- tract several years earlier?" and
`WHAT IF Thomas Reynolds was the purchaser
- and then bequeathed it to his
daughter in his will?" Or "WHAT IF Charles
- Moorman simply purchased the tract
between the 1708/09 and 1711/12
- processionings?" The records are
just not available to say which, if any, of the
- above is correct; we can't be sure
it's even the SAME tract or just in the same
- neighborhood. My point in this is
to say: "It's just not good genealogy to make
- assumptions with so few records."
We are hindered from making further
- conclusions by the lack of New
Kent County records; the 1704 Quit Rent roll [8]
- is little help for only shows that
no person named MOORMAN had patented land
- by 1704. Quit Rent was only
required on patented land (granted by the King's
- agent), and not on that received
by deed of gift (will) or purchased from an
- individual. [9]
- Hanover County
- By 1719 the list of neighbors for
Charles and Elizabeth changed
- dramatically suggesting they moved
north and west after the spring of 1716 and
- before fall 1719. However, this
closely coincides with the creation of a new
- county so one has to be careful.
Almost all the early Hanover County records
- were destroyed; but one small
Court Orders book survived and does contain
- helpful information. The will of
Thomas Glass (Jr.) dated 21 FEB 1725/6 gives "to
- son Robert 150 acres left me by my
father joining upon land I bought of Charles
- Moreman . to son Thomas the 100
acres I bought of Charles Moreman."[10] A
- look back at St. Paul's 19th
precinct list in 1708/9 and 6th list in 1711/12 shows
- Thomas Glass as near neighbor of
Charles Moorman. This will proves Charles
- sold land to Thomas Glass before
1726; that coupled with the sudden change of
- neighbors on procession lists
between 1716 and 1719 implies Charles and
- Elizabeth moved from one area of
"now" Hanover County to another between the
- two processions. Meanwhile,
Charles' neighbors in his old precinct remained
- nearly the same in 1719/20 as they
had been. They were Thos. Glass, John
- Saunders, Widd Winston, John
Brown, Nicho: Mills, for Jno Glass's orphan,
- James Tate, Isaac Winston for Anth
Winston's Orphan & Geo. Phillips. [11] The
- combination of Glass' will and the
1719/20 processioning convinces me that
- Charles had in fact moved.
- The other Court Order entry names
Charles Moorman, John Douglas and
- Anthony Pate appraisers of the
estate of Robert Holt 22 MAR 1734. This John
- Douglas is likely the one who
married Judith Moorman, daughter of Charles and
- Elizabeth.
-
- Names on the 1719 processioning
list include: Sam Chamberlayne, Jere:
- Parker, Stephen Sunter; Charles
MOORMAN, Maj. Nich'l Meriwether, Cap Nath'l
- West, Wm Pulliam, Thos Johnson, Wm
Williams, Doct Blair and Haunce
- Hendrick. A note explains
Hendrick's lands now belong to the orphans of Anth.
- Winston, lately dec'd. Some of
these names reappear on a road maintenance
- order by St. Paul's Vestry:
- "In obedience to an order of Court
dated ye 4th of 8br 1723.
- Ordering Charles Moorman to
Succeed Jere: Parker, deceas'd in ye
- Road he was Surveyor of: Order'd
that he have to assist him in
- Maintaining the said road, William
Webb, Thomas Johnson, Rich'd
- Allen, John Killcrease, Franc's
Clark, John Smithin, Thos Rowland,
- William Thacker, John Raglan,
Stephen Raglan, Timothy Sullivan,
- Timorthy Reach, & Wm Harris, with
all their male Tithables." [12]
- Thus we have a list of several
near neighbors; the trick now is to locate
- the general area where they lived.
Charles' patent for this land is found in Book
- 12: "Charles Moorman 111 acs (N.L.),
Hanover Co; beg. At Charles Moremon's
- cor. In Moor's line; to Thomas
Rowland; on Licking Hole Swamp; 9 July 1724, p.
- 35. 15 Shill." [13] ("N.L." means
"new land" and "Moreman's cor" indicates they
- already owned land in the area
before the survey was made.) To get from
- locating unclaimed land to the
actual patent required many steps and usually
- several years. Today, there are
several Licking Hole Creeks in VA, but no Licking
- Hole Swamps; however, the
designation "creek" and "swamp" appear to be
- interchangeable in early records.
Neighbor Thomas Rowland's 1728 patent is
- more helpful: "on both sides Ash
Cake Road; adjacent to Henry Kirby, Thomas
- Rowland, Charles Moreman, and
Moore's line; on Licking Hole swamp." [14]
- (Today, Ashcake Road in Hanover
County meanders from near the Pamunkey
- River to where it intersects with
Licking Hole Creek just south of the town of
- Ashland before heading off to the
northwest.) A road order dated 29 8br 1720
- [OCT] shows Jeremiah Parker's
precinct stretched from "Stony Run between
- Chickahominy Swamp, and the branch
of Machum's Creek . to Megirts path, to
- Tottopottomoy's Creek and from
thence to the mouth of Stony Run." [15] This
- precinct was divided in 1721 with
the area between Ash Cake Road and
- Machumps Creek remaining in
Parker's precinct. The fact Charles took over
- supervision of this precinct [by
order dated 4th 8br 1723] after Jeremiah Parker's
- death is very important. It
"implies" that Charles lived in the precinct, thus
- matches up with his owning land in
the area before the 1724 patent. But how he
- acquired this land is lost with
the New Kent Co. records.
-
- For some reason, processioning
records for the St. Paul's Parish during
- the 1720s are not available.
Neighbors in the 9th precinct (returned January
- 1731/2) include: Henry Bowe, John
Anderson, Joseph Perrin, Wm Alsup,
- Timothy Sillivant, Thos Rowland,
Peck's orphans, Stephen Ragland, John
- Ragland, John Guess, Ed Davis,
John Smithin, Chas Moorman, Wid Cole, John
- Snead, John Pulliam, Chile's
orphans, Michael Holland, Francis Clark, John
- Gilchrist, Geo Davis, Thos
Johnson, Chas Talley, Wm Nichols, Robt Allen, John
- Cannon, Thos Cawton, John Ragland,
Wm Alsop. A note indicates that Clark and
- Allen didn't show. This list of
neighbors remained much the same on the 1735,
- 1739 and 1743 processioning lists
although the precinct became the 3rd in 1735.
- This 1743 list is the last time
Charles Moorman's name appears in St.
- Paul's Parish records. However, we
have one problem: Charles Moorman Jr.
- married Mary ADAMS circa 1736.
Tradition has Charles and Elizabeth in the
- Green Springs community well
before 1743. So WHICH Charles is the one
- participating in the processioning
task for St. Paul's Parish from 1735 through
- 1743? It easily could be the
younger Charles who remained behind when his
- parents moved to Green Springs.
But which years is it he, and which his father?
- Or Charles and Elizabeth didn't
move to Green Springs as early as tradition has
- them? Lack of Hanover County
records is particularly burdensome here.
- Coupled with the lack of County
records, is the formation of another parish,
- whose records are also lost.
- In 1726 St, Martin's Parish was
cut off from the part of Hanover County
- and St. Paul's Parish that
eventually became Louisa County. But when Louisa
- County was cut off from part of
Hanover County DEC 1742, Fredericksville
- Parish was carved at the same time
from St. Martin's Parish. Depending on the
- source, a small strip of
far-eastern Louisa County remained in St. Martin's Parish
- or Fredericksville Parish covered
the entire area that was Louisa County. At this
- time, Fredericksville Parish and
Louisa County also includes a large chunk of
- present day Albemarle County. But
for now, we are interested in only a small
- area of Louisa, referred to as the
Green Springs community.
- Green Springs, Louisa County
- Tradition errs by stating Charles
was born at Green Springs, VA; the only
- Green Springs in Virginia in the
1600s is Gov. Berkeley's plantation of that name
- which lay near Jamestown. In fact
land patents suggest land speculators didn't
- reach the area of the green
springs until 1720s. In 1836 Joseph Martin described
- this area: "Towards the upper part
of the county is a singular tract of country, of
- about 8 or 10,000 acres, called
`Green Spring land', (from the mineral spring of
- that name situated in it.) This
tract lies in an irregular circle, or from four to six
- miles diameter, and far exceeds
all other high land in the county, both in native
- fertility, and in susceptibility
of improvement. Its soil is a dark grey, containing
- very little sand or stone of any
kind; and resting, at a depth of 12 or 15 inches,
- upon a stratum of compact, firm,
red clay, scarcely penetrable by water." [16] The
- National Historic Landmark
pamphlet for Green Springs adds: "By the early
- 1740's Quakers had settled in
Green Springs, their arrival a result of a search for
- fertile land and a desire to
escape from the persecution found in more settled
- areas further east. By 1742, when
the Quaker Camp Creek monthly meeting was
- formed, 16 Green Spring Quaker
families were members." Tradition has Charles
- and Elizabeth among these 16
families and patent records show Charles was
- indeed scouting for land in the
area before this.
- He patented 400 acres in then
Goochland County, (now Albemarle) at a
- Fork of the Rivanna River near the
Blue Mountain (1735) and 483 acres in
- Hanover County on both sides of
Rockey Creek (1737). [17] The reference to
- Blue Mountain is likely the Blue
Ridge and the fork of the Rivanna River probably
- became Moorman's River. The Rockey
Creek tract fell into the area of Hanover
- that became Louisa Co. In fact
this Rockey Creek tract confirms Charles and
- Elizabeth owned land in Louisa
before its creation. The third entry of Deed Book
- A identifies Charles as "of St.
Martin's Par., Louisa Co., planter" when he sold
- 403 acres to James Buchannan 8 JAN
1742/3. The land description includes:
- ". Price's corner . being 483
acres excepting 83 acres at lower end of tract on
- both sides Rocky Creek." That same
day he sold the withheld 83 acres to
- Alexander Galaspa. [18] Obviously
this is the entire tract he patented in 1737.
- Charles Sr. was one of the
witnesses FEB 1749 when James Buchanan sold 200
- acres from this tract to Munford
Robinson; [19] but, Charles Jr. and his wife Mary
- witnessed the deed when Munford
Robinson sold those same 200 acres in 1752.
- The tract was then described as
"200 acres on south fork of Foster's Creek; part
- of land taken up by Charles
Moorman; conveyed to James Buchanan . Foster's
- Creek . to Forrest Green's road
... between Foster's Creek and Rocky Creek."
- [20]
- Rocky and Foster's Creek are
parallel branches of the South Anna River
- and near Camp Creek where the
Meeting House was located. At the September
- 13th, 1743 meeting of the
Fredericksville Parish vestry, Charles Moreman and
- Forrest Green were appointed
overseers of the 10th precinct "from Hudson &
- Morris upper line between
Goochland line, the River and Fosters Creek." [21]
- Their brief report to the vestry
reads: "March 12, 1743/4 in Obediance to an
- Order of Vestry wee have peaceably
and Quietly processioned all the lands
- within our bounds." [22]
- The August 1745 patent for Charles
Francis further describes this area:
- "on both sides the Goochland Road,
on the Goochland Co. line [N60 degrees W];
- adj. Secretary Carter, James
Merideth & Charles Moreman." [23] Thanks to Doug
- Tucker for sharing this
experience:
- "I have `walked' the entire Green
Springs area with a local
- historian, Martha Purdy Adams, who
was able to point out the
- locations (and ruins) of many of
the homes you are talking about as
- well as the original Camp Springs
Quaker Meeting House location
- which was on Charles Moorman's
property. Charles actually lived
- on a low hill the north side of
Foster's Creek close to where it enters
- the South Anna River. The Camp
Creek meeting House was located
- on the south side of Camp Creek
close to where Camp Creek enters
- Hudson Creek and Hudson enters the
South Anna River not far from
- the crossroads shown as Poindexter
on today's maps."
- No one questions that Charles Sr.
is the one who originally donated the
- land for the Camp Creek Meeting
House; but it "appears" that Charles Moorman
- Jr. is the one who legally deeded
the Meeting House property to the Quakers.
- The wording retained in the
abstract reads: "10 April 1764 Charles Moorman of
- Louisa Co., Trinity Par., To John
Davis and Christopher Johnson; 5 shillings; one
- certain acre of land in Trinity
Par. On which sd. Acre the meeting house or place
- of Worship of the people called
Quakers is situate. Sd. Acre is hereby
- Covenanted to be laid off and
bounded so as the sd. Meetinghouse shall be
- exactly or as near as may be in
the Center thereof which said Meeting house is
- Generally called or known by the
Name of Camp Creek meeting House. The
- people called Quakers shall
forever freely use and meet on the sd. Acre for the
- purposes of Public Worship or for
the Regulation of Church Discipline and the
- People Called Quakers shall at all
times have free entry to and from sd.
- Meetinghouse without Trouble,
hindrance or Molestation or Denial of any person
- or persons." [24]
- Returning to the Fredericksville
Parish vestry processioning lists, we learn
- that in 1743 Charles also owned
land in the 17th precinct that fell into the area
- "from Harrisses Creek to Gibsons
Land between the River and the Road" [25]
- overseen by Henry Tate and John
Davis. Neighbors, based on their report to the
- vestry include: "part of Madm.
Johnson, part of Jams. Watsons, part of John
- Mechie, part of Love Statom's.
part of Mrs. Jouets. Part of Mrs. Jane Chapmans.
- part of one tract of John Raglands.
Nathan Watson's Finish'd. some Tracts of
- John Raglands finish'd. part of
Capt. Hollands & some Finish'd. Salem Bocock
- Finish'd. Francis Smethings
Finished. Part of Chas. Moremans. part of John
- Bunches. Jams. Lasley finish'd.
Robert Davis finish'd. Saml Johnsons finish'd.
- Thos. Gibson's Finiah'd. part of
Gilbert Gibsons and our Own." [26]
- Since Charles sold the entire
tract he patented, how he acquired his
- "home plantation" was destroyed
with other Hanover Co. records. However, we
- can pinpoint the location of their
"home planation" as near their 1737 patented
- land through other deeds, parish
records, and his will. He bequeathed his
- residence to his son, Achilles,
who sold it in 1772. The legal description on that
- deed reads: ". both sides of the
South Fork of Pamunkey River . Hudsons
- Creek on John Bunches line . along
a line marked without Survey by Charles
- Mooreman, dec'd, between his son
Charles Mooreman and the above Achelis
- Mooreman . to Hudsons Creek." [27]
His will gave "son Charles three hundred
- and --eventy acres more or less he
lives on" and "son Achilles four hundred
- twenty acres more or less I live
on." The above deed says Achilles' land adjoins
- that of his brother Charles. The
combination of the will and deed "suggests"
- Charles' home plantation was an
undivided 790 acres or so tract. Lacking
- Hanover Co. records, we'll never
know for sure.
- The remaining entries in the
Fredericksville Parish vestry book are
- interesting, if not terribly
informative. In 1747 Charles and Thomas Moorman
- were appointed overseers for the
15th precinct "between Cuffys Creek, Hudson
- Creek and the River." [28] In 1752
Thomas and Charles Moreman "Jr." were
- appointed overseers for "all land
between Hudsons Creek, Camp Creek and
- Machunks Creek". [29] The use of
"Jr." in the 1752 entry shows that two Charles
- Moormans now reside in Louisa
County. The lack of "Jr." or "Sr." in the 1747
- entry suggests that only one
Charles Moorman lived in Louisa at that time. Other
- records show the "father" Charles
in the county, so the 1747 entry is "father"
- Charles and his "son" Thomas. But
the 1752 return shows "brothers" Thomas
- and Charles Jr. as the overseers.
Then in 1760, (after Charles Sr.'s death in
- 1757) we again find "only" Charles
Moorman in records. He then becomes
- Charles Sr. when nephews and his
own son (all named Charles) enter the
- records.
- A Goochland County deed indicates
one Charles Moorman owned
- another tract which eventually
fell into Albemarle County; this one ". on the
- side of hill nigh Carrolls Creek,
a branch of Mountain Falls Creek . " [30] But
- again, we have to be careful about
distinguishing between Charles and his son. I
- think this Goochland / Albemarle
tract is more likely Charles Jr. since his father-
- in-law, Robert ADAMS, owned
property on Carrel's Creek. In fact, this tract might
- be part of the land at the foot of
Sugarloaf Mountain Robert bequeathed in his
- 1738 will to his daughters Mary
Moorman and Judith Clark. [ROBTADMS.txt]
- By all accounts, Charles and
Elizabeth were among the early settlers in
- the area. The real question is:
"When did they become Quakers?" The very first
- time any MOORMAN appears in VA
Quaker records is "1744, 9, 10 Charles & s.
- Thomas, co of a mtg lately settled
in the upper part of Louisa Co."[31] Yet, we
- have other known neighbors (from
processioning lists) who regularly appear in
- Quaker records from 1700 on. I
have no argument with them being charter
- members of Camp Creek Monthly
Meeting; it's the period before Camp Creek
- was organized that I am
discussing. Here's some background from Hinshaw:
- "Many of the charter members of
Camp Creek and Fork Creek
- seem to have been heredity
Friends, but the records would also tend to
- show that the majority of the
membership of this new monthly meeting
- were Friends by recent conversion.
A letter written by Gershom Perdue
- in 1878 seems to uphold this
interpretation. I quote in part:
- `These two families (John & Wm
Johnson) with many others of
- the higher class in the vicinity,
by the preaching of old Joseph Newby
- of lower part of North Carolina,
became Friends and built up Camp Creek
- Monthly Meeting and the meetings
composing it: Carolina meeting,
- Douglas Meeting and Park (Fork)
Meeting. Among other worthies were
- Christopher Clark, the Lynches,
Anthony, Douglas, Moormans, Terrills
- And Ballard and many others ."
Gershom Perdue." [32]
- Charles' Louisa Co. VA will is
dated 9 MAY 1755 and was probated 24
- MAY 1757. [See CHASWILL for
transcription.] Elizabeth's will is dated 29 JAN
- 1761 and was probated 11 MAY,
1765. Presumably each died shortly before
- their wills were submitted to
court. Only five children are named in these wills:
- Thomas, Charles, Achilles, Judith
and Ann. Mary Stewart is working on an in-
- depth report on Thomas and Rachel
(Clark). See the following for Achilles' line:
- [ACHLSWILL.txt; ACHILLES.txt;
ACHLSPII.txt]. I plan to write one on Thomas
- and Ann (Moorman) Martin -- unless
someone volunteers to write it for me. [See
- THOSMRTN.txt for transcription of
his will.] I invite descendants of Charles Jr.
- and Mary (Adams) and John and
Judith (Moorman) Douglas to share information
- on those two lines.
-
------------------------------------
- [1] The Parish Register of Saint
Peter's, New Kent County, Va. From 1680 to
- 1787_, published by the National
Society of the Colonial Dames of
- America, Parish Record Series, No.
2, Richmond, 1904, page 22.
- [2] Ibid, page 33.
- [3] Vestry Book of St. Paul's
Parish, Hanover County, Virginia, 1706-1786,
- transcribed by C. G. Chamberlayne,
reprint ed. 1989, VA State Lib., page
- 27. [Some quotes from notes on
which I didn't record page numbers.]
- [4] Ibid.
- [5] Cavaliers and Pioneers:
Abstracts of VA Land Patents and Grants,
- abstracted by Nell Marion Nugent,
vol. II: 1666-1695, VA St. Lib, 1977.
- [6] Chamberlayne, page 51.
- [7] Vestry Book of St. Peter's
Parish, New Kent Co. Virginia 1684-1786,
- transcribed by C. G. Chamberlayne,
page 21.
- [8] The Quit Rents of Virginia
1704, compiled by Annie Laurie Wright Smith,
- Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc.,
Baltimore, 1980, pages 62-3.
- [9] "Tidewater Virginia Families:
A Magazine of History and Genealogy", vol. 7,
- No. 4, FEB/MAR 1999 within article
"John Burrows, 1608 James City
- County" by Virginia Lee Hutcheson,
page 212.
- [10] Hanover County, VA Court
Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and
- Inventories, abstracted by Rosalie
Edith Davis, 1979. [My notes do not
- include page numbers.]
- [11] Chamberlayne, St. Paul's,
page 257.
- [12] Chamberlayne, St. Paul's,
page 108.
- [13] Cavaliers and Pioneers:
Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants,
- vol. III 1695-1732, abstracted by
Nell Marion Nugent, VA State Library,
- Richmond 1986, 2nd impression,
page 266.
- [14] Ibid, page 348.
- [15] Chamberlayne, St. Paul's,
page 92.
- [16] "A New and Comprehensive
Gazeteer of Virginia." by Joseph Martin,
- 1836.
- [17] Cavaliers and Pioneers: vol.
4 1732-1741 , edited by Denis Hudgins, VA
- Genealogical Society, Richmond,
1994, pages 86; 132.
- [18] Louisa Co. VA Deed Books A
and B 1742-1759 , abstracted and compiled
- by Edith Davis, Bellevue, Wash.
1976, page 1; Deed Book A, pages 7 to
- 10: Charles Moorman to James
Buchanan / Alexander Galaspa.
- [19] ibid, page 55, Deed Book A p.
382-3, James Buchanan to Mumford
- Robinson.
- [20] ibid, page 72-3, Deed Book A,
p. 459-460 Munford Robinson to John Askew.
- [21] Fredericksville Parish Vestry
Book 1742-1787, vol. 1 , edited and compiled
- by Rosalie Edith Davis,
Manchester, MO 1978, page 10.
- [22] Fredericksville Parish Vestry
Book: Indenture and Processioning Returns
- 1742-1787, vol. 2, transcribed and
edited by Rosalie Edith Davis,
- Manchester, MO 1981, pages 1.
- [23] Cavaliers & Pioneers: vol. 5
1741-1749, edited by Dennis Ray Hudgins, VA
- Genealogical Society, Richmond
1994, p. 96.
- [24] Louisa County, Virginia Deed
Books C, C «, D and D «: 1759-1774,
- abstracted and compiled by Rosalie
Edith Davis, Manchester, MO 1977,
- page 38; Louisa Deed Book C «,
page 11-12, Charles Moorman to John
- Davis and Christopher Johnson.
- [25] Davis, Fredericksville vol.
1, page 11.
- [26] Davis, Fredericksvill, vol.
2, page 1-2.
- [27] Davis, page 149; Louisa Deed
Book D «, Achilis Mooreman to James
- Watson 14 SEP 1772, p. 505-7.
- [28] Davis, Fredericksville, vol.
1, page 26.
- [29] ibid. page 52.
- [30] Goochland Co. VA Deeds
1741-1745, abstacted by TLC Genealogy, FL
- 1990, Goochland Deed Bk 4, p. 304
24 NOV 1743 Anthony Pouncy and
- Martin Dauson to Mathew Graves.
- [31] Encyclopedia of American
Quaker Genealogy, by William Wade Hinshaw,
- Ann Arbor, 1950, vol. 6, page 260.
- [32] Ibid, page 284.
- Information re: boundary changes
for parishes and counties from the
- Library of Virginia's "Parish
Lines Diocese of Virginia"; The Handybook for
- Genealogists by Everton and
"forwards" to several of the above books (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/chaseliz.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: before __ ___ 1686
_______________, Green Springs, New Kent Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(unknown author, "E-Mail message," e-mail to unknown recipient,
Stewart, Mary E.; mstewart@kaballero.com; 20 June 2005.).
- Marriage: __ ___ 1703
_______________, Green Springs, Louisa Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Death: 14 May 1757
_______________, Green Springs, Louisa Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Email: 20 Jun 2005
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; There is no documentation for the birth date or
parentage of the Charles Moorman who married Elizabeth Reynolds.
- However, land records including
the processing records of St. Peters and St. Pauls parisheds of
New Kent and Hanove rcounties lead me to believe that Charles was
the eldest son of Thomas New Kent County. Thomas had land in New
Kent and appears in 1689 as a processioner in St. Peters Parish.
St. Pauls Parish was cut off from St. Peters and Thomas' land was
in the new parish. Charles' land was processioned along with many
of the same people who had been Thomas' neighbors. Although there
is no direct evidence, it is likely that Thomas had died and
Charles, as eldest son, had inherited his land. Later, Charles
moved farther west (near present day Ashland) and his younger
brother, Andrew appears with the same neighbors Charles had
earlier.
- We don't know Charles' birthdate
but it was likely before the known baptismal dates of his
siblings, Mary and Andres (29 Aug 1686 and 4 Nov 1689) (E-mail.)
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father: Thomas MOORMAN (b. 1658, d. )
- Mother: Elizabeth Macajah SIMPSON (b.
1659, d. )
__________________________________________________________________________
- Spouse:
Elizabeth
REYNOLDS
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1688
_______________, _______________, Isle of Wright Co., VA (Pete
Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Death: 11 May 1765
_______________, _______________, _______________, VA (Pete
Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father: Christopher REYNOLDS (b. 1642, d.
1695)
- Mother: Eliza Ann/Elizabeth SHARPE (b.
1646, )
__________________________________________________________________________
- Four Known Children
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Achilles
MOORMAN
- Birth: __ ___ ____
- Marriage 1: _______________,
_______________, _______________, _______________; Elizabeth
Adams.
- Marriage? __ ___ ____
- Death: _______________,
_______________, Bedford Co., VA.
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Charles
MOORMAN
- Birth: __ ___ ____
- Marriage 1: _______________,
_______________, _______________, _______________; Mary Adams.
- Marriage? __ ___ ____
- Death: __ ___ ____
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Thomas
MOORMAN
- Marriage 1: _______________,
_______________, _______________, _______________; Rachel Clark.
- Birth: __ ___ 1705
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________.
- Death: __ ___ 1765
_______________, _______________, Bedford Co., VA.
- Marriage? __ ___ ____
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- F
Judith
MOORMAN
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0698.)
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1711
_______________, Greene Springs, Louisa Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0698.).
- Marriage: __ ___ 1731 John
DOUGLASS (b. circa 1700, d. 1761), son of William DOUGLASS and
Grisheald MACCLEAND; _______________, _______________, Louisa Co.,
VA (Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0698.).
- Daughter: 18 Dec 1733 Elizabeth
DOUGLASS; _______________, Barboursville, Orange Co., VA (Pete
Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I2774.).
- Son: 22 Feb 1752 Achilles
DOUGLASS; _______________, _______________, Orange Co., VA.
- Death: after __ ___ 1763
_______________, Barboursville, Orange Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- Family Group Sheet
- Subject:
Thomas
MOORMAN
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Thomas one of Zachariah's sons, a vestryman of
St. Peter's Parish, New Kent county, was living with his wife,
Elizabeth, and three children in that county in 1671.
- Note: For Thomas to have three
children in 1671, he must have been born earlier than 1658. The
1648 is more likely correct. **map** (Brother Ambrose, Charles
Carroll Moorman and His American Ancestors (St. Benedict, OR:
Self published, 1975), p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Charles C.
Moorman Ancestors.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________;
- THOMAS MOORMAN of New Kent Co. and
ELIZABETH ???
- by Linda Sparks Starr
- MAR 1996
- [In the interest of making headway
on this family, I've decided
- to examine only those parts of the
MOORMAN/CLARK legend which can
- be supported with primary
documents. The early vestry book for
- Upper Parish, Nansemond Co. was
destroyed; therefore there is no
- source for an Anglican vestryman
Thomas Moorman in that parish.
- I've searched many SC records; he
was NOT a landed proprietor
- there as some earlier researchers
said. Therefore I begin this
- study in New Kent Co. VA. LSS]
- The first appearance in VA of THIS
Thomas Moorman MAY BE the one
- claimed by Capt. James Turner as
one of his headrights in his JUN
- 1670 patent, book 6. [Nugent
Cavaliers & Pioneers, vol. 2] What
- makes this entry so intriguing is
Capt. Turner received land in
- New Kent Co. on "both sides Horse
Path at Mahexem and upon up
- per side Whyting Branch". Doug
Tucker, who used Nugent to plot
- CLARK and MOORMAN lands, says
"our" Thomas Moorman eventually
- settled near Whiting Swamp and in
the vicinity of the Mehexem (or
- Matrexem) path. Mary Stewart
emphasizes we CAN NOT ASSUME ANY
- THING about the people listed as
"transported" on patent records.
- This person MAY NOT BE "our"
Thomas; he MAY / MAY NOT have been
- an indentured servant of Capt.
Turner's.
- The above reference is the only
MOORMAN (including all variant
- spellings) in the index to
Nugent's volume 2; Charles is the only
- MOORMAN in the index to volume 3.
Thus, Thomas did not acquire
- his land via the headright /
patent route. This study and the one
- on son Charles will show Thomas
Moorman and his sons remained in
- the same area for 30 plus years.
Therefore, I think we can
- safely assume he eventually
acquired land. With the loss of all
- will and deed records for New Kent
Co., just "how" he acquired
- land as well as "how much" is lost
forever.
- The cycle from indentured servant
to landowner is explained in A
- Place in Time: Middlesex County,
VA 1650-1750, by (historians)
- Darrett B. and Anita Rutman,
Norton:NY 1984 ISBN 0-393-01801-6,
- page 75: "Freed servants rented or
cropped to obtain the
- wherewithal to buy, then sold or
rented part of what they bought
- to obtain the wherewithal to
develop the rest." They explained
- this system began falling apart in
1670. As the number of im
- ported slaves increased, the
number of white indentured servants
- decreased. Down the road, this
meant fewer newly freed servants
- to rent a portion of the newly
purchased land from those who ar
- rived before them. The other
possibilities for acquiring land
- were: outright purchase from an
individual, inheritance and mar
- riage. Thomas is the first
documented MOORMAN in the area so
- it's probably safe to say he
didn't inherit the land from his
- father; every other possibility is
open for consideration.
- This brings us to 1677 and the
first primary source for "our"
- Thomas Moorman. When King Charles
II heard about Bacon's Rebel
- lion and extent of Gov. Berkeley's
punishment of the offenders,
- he (? what else) appointed a
commission to get to the bottom of
- everything. The Commissioners went
around the countryside meet
- ing with settlers, asking them to
compile a list of grievances
- for the King. In his 50 plus page
forward to the 1935 edition of
- his Vestry Book of Blisland
Parish..., Chamberlayne names all 87
- signers at the "north church".
- Thomas Mooreman's name appears
page xlv along with his neighbors
- based on the first St. Peter's
parish processioning list. To
- have a grievance April 1677,
SUGGESTS he was "on the ground" ear
- lier. The Rutmans suggest the
cause of the rebellion was a
- build-up of frustration -- higher
taxes, lower tobacco prices,
- weather related crop failures -- a
general feeling of things
- going from bad to worse.
- Another specific reference to
Thomas Moorman is found in
- Chamberlayne's Vestry Book of St.
Peter's Parish, New Kent Co.
- 1684-1786, page 21. This
apparently is the first time the vestry
- was divided into precincts for
processioning boundary lines.
- Thomas's immediate neighbors in
1689 were: Char. Brya[], Char.
- Bostick, Chris. Baker, Tho.
Moorman, Tho. Snead, Jam. Moor, Edw.
- Qorill / Dorill.
- Of these people, Charles Bostike
signed the 1677 grievance im
- mediately before Thomas Mooreman.
Others of similar surnames, but
- whose signatures on the list were
farther from Thomas's, include:
- Henry Snead, James Moore and
Edward Dorrell. Thus we can say
- with certainty that the Thomas
Mooreman of 1677 is the same Tho.
- Moorman in 1689. These people
didn't move; the new St. Peter's
- Parish boundary line just took
them in.
- Long-term leasing is one thing,
but surely in 12 to 15 years,
- Thomas saved enough to buy his own
tract of land that passed to
- his sons. The names of near
neighbors on the above processioning
- list re-appear in the first three
St. Paul's processioning lists
- -- 1708, 1711, and 1716 -- as near
neighbors of sons Charles and
- Andrew Moorman.
- The Rutmans, page 145: "The
possession of land and wealth were
- clearly vital elements ... Those
without land ... were virtually
- excluded from public tasks ...
colony law restricted jury duty
- and the like to 'freeholders,' few
who did not own or hold long
- term leases to property were
selected ... Among the eighty-four
- men active in 1700 ... only three
came from the bottommost level
- of free society, one serving as a
sexton, two as appraisers."
- Without New Kent court records,
we'll never know if Thomas was
- asked to appraise estates or serve
on juries. The only time his
- name appears in Chamberlayne's
abstract of vestry records is the
- above processioning list.
- Now lets go to The Parish Register
of Saint Peter's, New Kent Co.
- VA from 1680 to 1787, published
Richmond: 1904 by Colonial Dames
- of America. Page 22 is the primary
source for Thomas's wife and
- two of his children: "Mary, ye dau
of Thomas Moreman and
- Elizabeth his wife bapt ye 29th
day of Aug 1686" and "Andrew,
- son of Tho Moorman bapt ye 4 day
of Nov 1689".
- Family legends differ on son
Charles' birthyear. I SUGGEST
- Charles was the older son, either
born in Blisland Parish whose
- earliest register book is not
extant, or more probably in St.
- Peter's Parish. The earliest
extant pages were obviously
- deteriorated when abstracted one
hundred years ago; large por
- tions of written entries are
missing -- especially the birth
- years. Even though the title of
the book says "1680", it's impos-
- sible to say in what year the
first surviving entries were made.
- I SUGGEST whole pages of the very
earliest entries are missing
- altogether -- including Charles'
birth / baptism record. Based on
- three years between Mary and
Andrew's baptism dates and the
- "usual" two between births, I
PROJECT Charles' birthyear as c1683
- to c1684.
- What is the Anglican policy on
infant baptism? The St. Peter's
- entry for Mary and Andrew
specifically says "baptized" not born.
- Could Mary and Andrew have been
older than assumed when they
- were baptized? Although Mary and
Andrew are the only "proven"
- children of this couple, ALL
genealogies except Bro. Ambrose Moor-
- man name Charles as a son. Doug
Tucker proposes another son
- Thomas (1688-1782) (hereafter
"Jr.") to explain / identify the
- parentage of Thomas Moorman
(hereafter "III") who was raising his
- family in North Carolina
mid-1750s. [I'm out of my depth here,
- but I present Doug's case for
those researching these MOORMANs.)
- In his MOORMAN / TUCKER FAMILY IN
AMERICA study, page 8, Doug
- says this Thomas (Jr.) and the
above Andrew, younger brothers of
- Charles, "led a small Quaker
migration ... south to newly opened
- lands along what later became the
North Carolina/South Carolina
- border. Thomas (Jr.) settled in
Anson County, NC and Andrew
- settled across the (future) border
in Marlboro County, SC."
- Doug added a bit more about this
Thomas Jr. in his study on Fran
- cis Clark and his Children. Coming
forward one more generation,
- Doug begins with a Thomas (III)
who married Sarah CLARK; the
- births of their nine children were
recorded in Cane Creek Meeting
- between 1754 and 1768. Doug says
Moorman records say Thomas (III)
- was the youngest son of Thomas
(Jr.) b. 1688 who reportedly
- married Elizabeth CLARK, daughter
of the elusive Micajah and
- Sallie Ann (Moorman). Thomas Jr.
and Elizabeth had three sur
- viving children: Andrew b. 1718,
Benjamin b. 1722 and Thomas III
- b. 1730.
- Back to Virginia. Neither Thomas
Sr. nor Charles appears on The
- Quit Rents of VA: 1704, compiled
by Annie Laurie Wright Smith,
- GenPubCo: 1980. Doug's
understanding is, "only land 'granted'
- free by the Colony was assessed
quit rent. Land purchased from
- the Crown by cash payment, or
equivalent, was generally assessed
- quit rent for three years after
which no more rent had to be
- paid. Land acquired in private
transactions generally remained
- on the quit rent rolls until the
owner 'bought' the land from the
- colonial government in which case
it was removed from the quit
- rent rolls." If Doug is correct,
the absence of Thomas' name on
- this list cannot be used as a
"death by" record.
- Thomas Sr's name does not appear
on the first processioning order
- for St. Paul's Parish -- 1708. [Chamberlayne,
Vestry Book of St.
- Paul's Parish, Hanover Co. VA
1706-1786]. I think this record can
- be used as a "death by" record;
therefore, he died before 1708.
- The very last time we have a
record for him is Andrew's baptism,
- NOV 1689. I hesitate to GUESS at
his birth / death years, but
- logical dates seem to be birth in
the 1650s and death late 1690s
- / early 1700s.
- As I see it, we have no primary
source for Charles or Thomas Jr.
- as sons of Thomas and Elizabeth.
However, I think a good
- "preponderance of evidence" case
for Charles as son can be made
- -- and has been made by Doug
Tucker -- by comparing the St.
- Paul's processioners with 1689 St.
Peter's processioners and even
- the 1677 signers in Blisland
Parish. [I will get more into this
- in my future update on Charles. I
leave the NC MOORMANs to other
- researchers. LSS]
- In his February 24, 1996 study of
the Moorman land records, Doug
- located the MOORMAN property in
"the general vicinity of the up
- per reaches of Whiting Swamp
(which joins Matadequin Creek just
- before the latter enters the
Pamunkey River)." In other words,
- near the Pamunkey River.
- This is important, for SIMPSON is
suggested by some as a LIKELY
- (not proven) surname for
Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Moorman. On
- page 7, Doug says an "Edward
Simpson lived directly across the
- Pamunkey River [from Thomas] along
Simpson's Creek in an area com-
- monly known as Pamunkey Neck. In
the late 1600's, Pamunkey Neck
- was part of New Kent Co. and St.
Peter's Parish and a ferry was
- established across the Pamunkey to
connect the sparsely settled
- Neck ... with the area south of
the Pamunkey ... the presence of
- a Simpson family in the immediate
neighborhood lends a bit of
- credence to the scant evidence
that SIMPSON was the maiden name
- of Thomas' wife."
- The Simpsons weren't there in
1689, however, for the first St.
- Peter's processioning list
specifically names the nineteen
- families living on Pamunkey Neck.
Even though only 19 (probably
- fewer) families lived on the Neck
1680, the very first entry in
- the St. Peter's vestrybook charged
William Atkinson with keeping
- the parish ferry for benefit of
the few inhabitants who lived
- north of the Pamunkey River. The
SIMPSONs not being there in
- 1689 is not that relevant, for
Thomas Moorman and Elizabeth were
- married c1682 IF Charles is the
oldest child. To date, we've
- found no primary source for
Elizabeth's surname
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/thsmorma.txtt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1658
_______________, Isle of Wight, Hampshire Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Marriage: __ ___ 1683
_______________, Green Springs, Louisa Co., VA; This may be a
second wife, as other sources show Charles born 29 August 1670;
Mary b. August 1686, and Andrew b. 1689, with Thomas and Micajah
born between Charles and Mary. They also show a wife named
Elizabeth Clark (Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(Stephen Frederick Tillman, Genealogical and Political
Achievement History of the Descendants of Thomas Moorman of the
Isle of Wight, England, in the United States from 1620 to 1971,
The (No place: Privately Printed, 1971), p. 9. Hereinafter
cited as Thomas Moorman of the Isle of Wight, England.)
- Death: __ ___ ____
_______________, Green Springs, New Kent Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father: Zachariah MOORMAN (b. 1619, d. Jan
1670)
- Mother: Mary Ann CANDLER (b. 1635, d.
1670)
__________________________________________________________________________
- Spouse:
Elizabeth Macajah
SIMPSON
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
- Parentage: _______________,
_______________, _______________, _______________; Another source
gives her name as Elizabeth Clark, daughter of Christopher and
Rebecca Clark. However, there are no sources for this information.
- Birth: __ ___ 1659
_______________, _______________, Louisa Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Death: __ ___ ____
_______________, Green Springs, New Kent Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father:
- Mother:
__________________________________________________________________________
- One Known Child
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Charles
MOORMAN
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
- Research: _______________,
_______________, _______________, _______________.
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; ...Among the most influential of these Quakers
was Charles Moorman(3) of Louisa County, who married Elizabeth
reynolds. She bore him five children, Thomas(4) (1708-1766),
Judith(4) (Douglas), Ann(4) (Martin), Achilles(4) and Charles(4).
The family purchased considerable land in Albemarle County on and
near Moormans River, a stream named for Thomas ("Wm & Mary
Quarterly", "The Moorman Family of Virginia"; Paullin, Charles O.;
2nd Series, Vol. 12, No. 3 (July 1931), pp. 177-180.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; ...Charles, the other son, lived in Louisa County
near "Green Spring" where he had settled in 1704. He married
Elizabeth Reynolds. They were both devout Quakers, although they
owned slaves. Charles was a Justice of the Peace and with his son,
Thomas, was an overseer of the Society of Friends. Charles died in
1756.
- He had five children by Elizabeth
Reynolds.
- The first was Thomas (1705-1765)
who married Rachel Clark. They lvied in Louisa County ner Green
Spring, but a few years before he died, he and his family moved to
Bedford County where he held large tracts of land. Records at
Bedford show that he first bought land in that County, July 17,
1762. His will is dated July 22, 1765; it was probated in November
of the following year.
- The second child of Charles and
Elizabeth was Judith, who married John Douglas.
- The third child, Charles, married
Mary Adams; the fourth child, Achilles, married Elizabeth Adams
and lived in Bedford County.
- The second son of Rachel and
Thomas Moorman, Micajah (1735) married Susannah Chiles and lived
on land upon which part of Lynchburg now stands. He was one of the
trustees of the City. Micajah (1735-1806) raised his own eleven
children, as well as his sister Elizabeth's sons, Moorman and
Christopher Johnson, after her death. These two nephews afterwards
married Micajah's two daughters. The eldest son, Zachariah, in
1763, settled five miles south of Lynch's Ferry on the James. He
married Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Terrell of Caroline County in
1755. His second wife was Elizabeth Johnson. Many of the Moormans
were disowned by the Society for holding slaves and "marrying out
of unity". Thomas Clark Moorman, with almost his whole family
started migration to the West when he set out in 1755 for the Ohio
Wilderness. Many Quakers followed him later (Brown, Lynchburg's
Pioneer Quakers, pg. 60-61.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; CHAS/ELIZ [I begin this with a bit of trepidation
for this is one of the major
- couples in our shared history. So
much is already known about them, one may
- wonder how I expect to write
anything new? I don't. What I intend is a discussion
- of facts without tradition. Thus,
I deliberately do not use the many times
- published traditional sources.
Please bear with me through the tedious
- discussion of changing boundary
lines; this is important to understanding records
- and recognizing other logical
areas to search. It also keeps us from projecting a
- physical move when merely changing
boundary lines is the reason for a sudden
- disappearance from one area and
reappearance in records of another. Earlier I
- identified this man as Charles "M"
(from Rosalie Davis' abstracts of his signature
- or "sign by mark") as a tool
toward keeping the numerous Charles Moormans
- straight. I never intended to
suggest it was his middle initial, but now realize I
- inadvertently created confusion.
Thus, I'm changing to the more traditional:
- Charles Moorman (c1683-1757).
Before I begin, I want to emphasize that the
- FIRST official record of Charles
in Virginia is 1708/9. EVERYTHING (including
- the first four paragraphs of this
report) written about him prior to 1708/9 is based
- entirely on interpretation of a
limited number of actual records; I acknowledge I
- may err in some of my
interpretation. Therefore, comments and rebuttals based
- on interpretation of facts and not
purely on tradition, are welcome. For the record:
- my sole reason for grouping
Charles within the family of Thomas, Andrew and
- Mary is these are the only
MOORMANs in the early VA records. I want to extend
- a special thanks to Mary Stewart
who has generously shared her genealogical
- expertise, data and encouragement
during the writing process. LSS]
- Charles MOORMAN and Elizabeth
REYNOLDS
-
- by Linda Sparks Starr March 1999
-
- I have as many "guesses" for
Charles' birth year (1670 to 1690) as I have
- traditional accounts; the bottom
line is all are guesses, no matter who reported
- the information. My "best guess"
is a more narrowed range: not before 1680 and
- no later than 1684. My reasoning:
Charles appears in St. Paul's vestry records
- before his brother Andrew
(baptized 1689 [1]); therefore I project him the elder of
- the two. With a sister baptized in
1686, Charles' birth is moved backward once
- again. Because he doesn't appear
in processiong records until 1708/9, I think he
- was born after 1680. This also
agrees with what is known about his "probable"
- father, Thomas. [THSMORMA.txt]
Thomas Moorman is found in Blisland Parish
- in 1677 and in St. Peter's Parish
in 1689. St. Peter's was cut off from the upper
- part of Blisland Parish in 1680.
Therefore, with a birth between 1680-1684, we
- can say Charles Moorman was
"probably" born in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent
- County, Virginia.
- There are at least two good
reasons for the lack of birth records for
- Charles: Blisland's birth register
is not extant and St. Peter's doesn't begin until
- 1682. Even then several of the
first few pages are completely missing or have
- many torn places. I project
Charles' birth record is among those missing entries -
- and believe this is the only
reason for lack of his birth record.
- We perhaps have better luck with
Elizabeth REYNOLDS. Although more
- research is called for, I project
the "Eliz. daugh' to Tho. Renalls Bapt 15 of March
- 1690-1" [2] is the same Elizabeth
who married Charles Moorman. Louisa Court
- records identify Charles' wife as
"Elizabeth" and tradition says REYNOLDS.
- Although Tillman and others say
she descends from Christopher Reynolds of Isle
- of Wight Co., VA, I believe Thomas
as her father makes a far stronger case.
- Charles and Elizabeth's marriage
date is problematic, but surely comes
- within the first five years of the
eighteenth century. Tradition says Elizabeth was
- 13 when she married - IF she's the
above Elizabeth baptized March 1690/1
- [1691] that gives them a marriage
date circa 1704. However, the same tradition
- says Charles was 15, thus born
circa 1688. St. Peter's records show the baptism
- of his sister in 1686 and his
brother in 1689. It's possible, but not likely his mother
- would have three children in three
years and his father would fail to register the
- birth of only one. For all the
above reasons, I personally believe Charles was
- born circa1683.
- Every four years the General
Assembly required parish vestries to perform
- a task called "processioning." In
the days before property was fenced, neighbors
- walked their boundary lines with
two neutral overseers as witnesses. In the
- process they re-stacked fallen
marking stones and remarked all those hickory
- and red oak trees seen in early
deeds. This kept boundary disputes from taking
- up court time.
- In 1706 St. Paul's Parish was
created from the upper portion of St. Peter's
- Parish, but both parishes remained
in New Kent County. The first vestry book
- entry regarding processioning
begins "July ye 28th 1708, Ordered that the parish
- be forth[ ]th divided into
precincts for processioning according to law ." [3] The
- order further directed this be
carried out between September 30 and March 31.
- The vestry met that September to
divide into precincts; the results from its 39
- precincts were returned 14 March
1708/9.
- Charles makes his first appearance
in Virginia records in 1708/9 among
- those living in the 19th
processioning precinct: James Tate, Geo. Phillips, Chas
- MOORMAN, Nich: Mills Jr. and Thos
Glass. Tate and Glass were appointed
- precinct overseers that year. [4]
A study of land patents [5] suggests this group of
- neighbors lived near Totopotomoy
Creek, Whiting Swamp and the Pamunkey
- (then called York) River. However,
since so many of these men owned several
- tracts of land, it is difficult to
determine which was the residential tract for any
- single individual.
- In 1711 the vestry appointed three
committees to divide the parish into
- processioning precincts; each
committee was assigned to one large area --
- between "the lower line and
Totopottomoy's Creek"; between "Totopottomoys
- Creek and Machumps Creek"; and
"above Machump's Creek." [6] The returns of
- 30 precincts were reported to the
vestry 17 MAR 1711/12. This time Charles
- lived in the 6th district composed
of: Anthony Winston, Thomas Glass, Jno
- Sanders, widow Winston, John
Brown, Charles Moorman, Nich. Mills, James
- Tate and Geo Phillips. Thus we
know he didn't move; the precinct number
- merely changed. The precinct
number and neighbors remained mostly
- unchanged in the 1716
processioning as well.
- However, Charles' name also
appears in the 15th district with neighbors:
- Edwd Moore, Joseph Baughon, Wm
Bostick, Widd [or Didd] Leak, Simon Woody,
- Chas Bostick, James Woody, Charles
MOORMAN, Chas Brian. Overseers
- Moore and Baughon returned the
list 8 DEC 1711 with notation it was
- "subscribed by all persons except
Moorman." This notation suggests Charles did
- not live on this particular tract,
for was not available to walk the lines with his
- neighbors. The composition of this
new neighborhood is surprisingly similar to
- the 1689 list of neighbors in then
St. Peter's Parish: Char. Brya[], Char. Bostick,
- Chris. Baker, Tho. MOORMAN, Tho.
Snead, Jam. Moor, Edw. Qurill [Dorill]. [7]
- Andrew Moorman makes his only
appearance in St. Paul's Parish records
- in 1716. He is listed among the
same 15th district neighbors where Charles' name
- appeared four years earlier:
Joseph Baughan, Wm Bostock, Edw Moore, Widd:
- Leak, Simon Woody, Walter Leak,
Chas Bostock, Andrew MOORMAN, Jas
- Woody and Chas Brian.
- Based on these three processioning
lists, it is almost too easy to come to
- this logical conclusion: St.
Peter's birth register proves Thomas is father of
- Andrew; thus Thomas is father of
Charles Moorman (c1683-1757). This agrees
- with tradition and all but one of
the earlier researchers. Brother Ambrose thought
- Charles was the son of Zachariah
and Mary. However, I'm very uncomfortable
- with the 23-year gap between the
St. Peter's record showing Thomas Moorman
- living among these neighbors and
the St. Paul's record with Charles and then
- Andrew living in the same
neighborhood.
- Based on these same records, we
can show Thomas REYNOLDS was
- another near neighbor to Thomas
Moorman as was Edward Johnson and various
- SNEADs. (BLDFNTES.txt and
EDWJOHNS.txt) We tend to think of these
- processioning precincts as
distinct neighborhoods, when in fact the lines were
- arbitrarily drawn, often dividing
known family groups. Therefore, to point out a
- pitfall in making assumptions
based on too few records, I present the following
- "What if" scenarios: "WHAT IF
Elizabeth inherited this tract from her father?" As a
- married woman, her husband's name
would appear on all legal records. This
- explains his name on the 1711/12
processioning record. Then "WHAT IF they
- sold this tract to Andrew
Moorman?" Or `WHAT IF Thomas Moorman sold this
- tract several years earlier?" and
`WHAT IF Thomas Reynolds was the purchaser
- and then bequeathed it to his
daughter in his will?" Or "WHAT IF Charles
- Moorman simply purchased the tract
between the 1708/09 and 1711/12
- processionings?" The records are
just not available to say which, if any, of the
- above is correct; we can't be sure
it's even the SAME tract or just in the same
- neighborhood. My point in this is
to say: "It's just not good genealogy to make
- assumptions with so few records."
We are hindered from making further
- conclusions by the lack of New
Kent County records; the 1704 Quit Rent roll [8]
- is little help for only shows that
no person named MOORMAN had patented land
- by 1704. Quit Rent was only
required on patented land (granted by the King's
- agent), and not on that received
by deed of gift (will) or purchased from an
- individual. [9]
- Hanover County
- By 1719 the list of neighbors for
Charles and Elizabeth changed
- dramatically suggesting they moved
north and west after the spring of 1716 and
- before fall 1719. However, this
closely coincides with the creation of a new
- county so one has to be careful.
Almost all the early Hanover County records
- were destroyed; but one small
Court Orders book survived and does contain
- helpful information. The will of
Thomas Glass (Jr.) dated 21 FEB 1725/6 gives "to
- son Robert 150 acres left me by my
father joining upon land I bought of Charles
- Moreman . to son Thomas the 100
acres I bought of Charles Moreman."[10] A
- look back at St. Paul's 19th
precinct list in 1708/9 and 6th list in 1711/12 shows
- Thomas Glass as near neighbor of
Charles Moorman. This will proves Charles
- sold land to Thomas Glass before
1726; that coupled with the sudden change of
- neighbors on procession lists
between 1716 and 1719 implies Charles and
- Elizabeth moved from one area of
"now" Hanover County to another between the
- two processions. Meanwhile,
Charles' neighbors in his old precinct remained
- nearly the same in 1719/20 as they
had been. They were Thos. Glass, John
- Saunders, Widd Winston, John
Brown, Nicho: Mills, for Jno Glass's orphan,
- James Tate, Isaac Winston for Anth
Winston's Orphan & Geo. Phillips. [11] The
- combination of Glass' will and the
1719/20 processioning convinces me that
- Charles had in fact moved.
- The other Court Order entry names
Charles Moorman, John Douglas and
- Anthony Pate appraisers of the
estate of Robert Holt 22 MAR 1734. This John
- Douglas is likely the one who
married Judith Moorman, daughter of Charles and
- Elizabeth.
-
- Names on the 1719 processioning
list include: Sam Chamberlayne, Jere:
- Parker, Stephen Sunter; Charles
MOORMAN, Maj. Nich'l Meriwether, Cap Nath'l
- West, Wm Pulliam, Thos Johnson, Wm
Williams, Doct Blair and Haunce
- Hendrick. A note explains
Hendrick's lands now belong to the orphans of Anth.
- Winston, lately dec'd. Some of
these names reappear on a road maintenance
- order by St. Paul's Vestry:
- "In obedience to an order of Court
dated ye 4th of 8br 1723.
- Ordering Charles Moorman to
Succeed Jere: Parker, deceas'd in ye
- Road he was Surveyor of: Order'd
that he have to assist him in
- Maintaining the said road, William
Webb, Thomas Johnson, Rich'd
- Allen, John Killcrease, Franc's
Clark, John Smithin, Thos Rowland,
- William Thacker, John Raglan,
Stephen Raglan, Timothy Sullivan,
- Timorthy Reach, & Wm Harris, with
all their male Tithables." [12]
- Thus we have a list of several
near neighbors; the trick now is to locate
- the general area where they lived.
Charles' patent for this land is found in Book
- 12: "Charles Moorman 111 acs (N.L.),
Hanover Co; beg. At Charles Moremon's
- cor. In Moor's line; to Thomas
Rowland; on Licking Hole Swamp; 9 July 1724, p.
- 35. 15 Shill." [13] ("N.L." means
"new land" and "Moreman's cor" indicates they
- already owned land in the area
before the survey was made.) To get from
- locating unclaimed land to the
actual patent required many steps and usually
- several years. Today, there are
several Licking Hole Creeks in VA, but no Licking
- Hole Swamps; however, the
designation "creek" and "swamp" appear to be
- interchangeable in early records.
Neighbor Thomas Rowland's 1728 patent is
- more helpful: "on both sides Ash
Cake Road; adjacent to Henry Kirby, Thomas
- Rowland, Charles Moreman, and
Moore's line; on Licking Hole swamp." [14]
- (Today, Ashcake Road in Hanover
County meanders from near the Pamunkey
- River to where it intersects with
Licking Hole Creek just south of the town of
- Ashland before heading off to the
northwest.) A road order dated 29 8br 1720
- [OCT] shows Jeremiah Parker's
precinct stretched from "Stony Run between
- Chickahominy Swamp, and the branch
of Machum's Creek . to Megirts path, to
- Tottopottomoy's Creek and from
thence to the mouth of Stony Run." [15] This
- precinct was divided in 1721 with
the area between Ash Cake Road and
- Machumps Creek remaining in
Parker's precinct. The fact Charles took over
- supervision of this precinct [by
order dated 4th 8br 1723] after Jeremiah Parker's
- death is very important. It
"implies" that Charles lived in the precinct, thus
- matches up with his owning land in
the area before the 1724 patent. But how he
- acquired this land is lost with
the New Kent Co. records.
-
- For some reason, processioning
records for the St. Paul's Parish during
- the 1720s are not available.
Neighbors in the 9th precinct (returned January
- 1731/2) include: Henry Bowe, John
Anderson, Joseph Perrin, Wm Alsup,
- Timothy Sillivant, Thos Rowland,
Peck's orphans, Stephen Ragland, John
- Ragland, John Guess, Ed Davis,
John Smithin, Chas Moorman, Wid Cole, John
- Snead, John Pulliam, Chile's
orphans, Michael Holland, Francis Clark, John
- Gilchrist, Geo Davis, Thos
Johnson, Chas Talley, Wm Nichols, Robt Allen, John
- Cannon, Thos Cawton, John Ragland,
Wm Alsop. A note indicates that Clark and
- Allen didn't show. This list of
neighbors remained much the same on the 1735,
- 1739 and 1743 processioning lists
although the precinct became the 3rd in 1735.
- This 1743 list is the last time
Charles Moorman's name appears in St.
- Paul's Parish records. However, we
have one problem: Charles Moorman Jr.
- married Mary ADAMS circa 1736.
Tradition has Charles and Elizabeth in the
- Green Springs community well
before 1743. So WHICH Charles is the one
- participating in the processioning
task for St. Paul's Parish from 1735 through
- 1743? It easily could be the
younger Charles who remained behind when his
- parents moved to Green Springs.
But which years is it he, and which his father?
- Or Charles and Elizabeth didn't
move to Green Springs as early as tradition has
- them? Lack of Hanover County
records is particularly burdensome here.
- Coupled with the lack of County
records, is the formation of another parish,
- whose records are also lost.
- In 1726 St, Martin's Parish was
cut off from the part of Hanover County
- and St. Paul's Parish that
eventually became Louisa County. But when Louisa
- County was cut off from part of
Hanover County DEC 1742, Fredericksville
- Parish was carved at the same time
from St. Martin's Parish. Depending on the
- source, a small strip of
far-eastern Louisa County remained in St. Martin's Parish
- or Fredericksville Parish covered
the entire area that was Louisa County. At this
- time, Fredericksville Parish and
Louisa County also includes a large chunk of
- present day Albemarle County. But
for now, we are interested in only a small
- area of Louisa, referred to as the
Green Springs community.
- Green Springs, Louisa County
- Tradition errs by stating Charles
was born at Green Springs, VA; the only
- Green Springs in Virginia in the
1600s is Gov. Berkeley's plantation of that name
- which lay near Jamestown. In fact
land patents suggest land speculators didn't
- reach the area of the green
springs until 1720s. In 1836 Joseph Martin described
- this area: "Towards the upper part
of the county is a singular tract of country, of
- about 8 or 10,000 acres, called
`Green Spring land', (from the mineral spring of
- that name situated in it.) This
tract lies in an irregular circle, or from four to six
- miles diameter, and far exceeds
all other high land in the county, both in native
- fertility, and in susceptibility
of improvement. Its soil is a dark grey, containing
- very little sand or stone of any
kind; and resting, at a depth of 12 or 15 inches,
- upon a stratum of compact, firm,
red clay, scarcely penetrable by water." [16] The
- National Historic Landmark
pamphlet for Green Springs adds: "By the early
- 1740's Quakers had settled in
Green Springs, their arrival a result of a search for
- fertile land and a desire to
escape from the persecution found in more settled
- areas further east. By 1742, when
the Quaker Camp Creek monthly meeting was
- formed, 16 Green Spring Quaker
families were members." Tradition has Charles
- and Elizabeth among these 16
families and patent records show Charles was
- indeed scouting for land in the
area before this.
- He patented 400 acres in then
Goochland County, (now Albemarle) at a
- Fork of the Rivanna River near the
Blue Mountain (1735) and 483 acres in
- Hanover County on both sides of
Rockey Creek (1737). [17] The reference to
- Blue Mountain is likely the Blue
Ridge and the fork of the Rivanna River probably
- became Moorman's River. The Rockey
Creek tract fell into the area of Hanover
- that became Louisa Co. In fact
this Rockey Creek tract confirms Charles and
- Elizabeth owned land in Louisa
before its creation. The third entry of Deed Book
- A identifies Charles as "of St.
Martin's Par., Louisa Co., planter" when he sold
- 403 acres to James Buchannan 8 JAN
1742/3. The land description includes:
- ". Price's corner . being 483
acres excepting 83 acres at lower end of tract on
- both sides Rocky Creek." That same
day he sold the withheld 83 acres to
- Alexander Galaspa. [18] Obviously
this is the entire tract he patented in 1737.
- Charles Sr. was one of the
witnesses FEB 1749 when James Buchanan sold 200
- acres from this tract to Munford
Robinson; [19] but, Charles Jr. and his wife Mary
- witnessed the deed when Munford
Robinson sold those same 200 acres in 1752.
- The tract was then described as
"200 acres on south fork of Foster's Creek; part
- of land taken up by Charles
Moorman; conveyed to James Buchanan . Foster's
- Creek . to Forrest Green's road
... between Foster's Creek and Rocky Creek."
- [20]
- Rocky and Foster's Creek are
parallel branches of the South Anna River
- and near Camp Creek where the
Meeting House was located. At the September
- 13th, 1743 meeting of the
Fredericksville Parish vestry, Charles Moreman and
- Forrest Green were appointed
overseers of the 10th precinct "from Hudson &
- Morris upper line between
Goochland line, the River and Fosters Creek." [21]
- Their brief report to the vestry
reads: "March 12, 1743/4 in Obediance to an
- Order of Vestry wee have peaceably
and Quietly processioned all the lands
- within our bounds." [22]
- The August 1745 patent for Charles
Francis further describes this area:
- "on both sides the Goochland Road,
on the Goochland Co. line [N60 degrees W];
- adj. Secretary Carter, James
Merideth & Charles Moreman." [23] Thanks to Doug
- Tucker for sharing this
experience:
- "I have `walked' the entire Green
Springs area with a local
- historian, Martha Purdy Adams, who
was able to point out the
- locations (and ruins) of many of
the homes you are talking about as
- well as the original Camp Springs
Quaker Meeting House location
- which was on Charles Moorman's
property. Charles actually lived
- on a low hill the north side of
Foster's Creek close to where it enters
- the South Anna River. The Camp
Creek meeting House was located
- on the south side of Camp Creek
close to where Camp Creek enters
- Hudson Creek and Hudson enters the
South Anna River not far from
- the crossroads shown as Poindexter
on today's maps."
- No one questions that Charles Sr.
is the one who originally donated the
- land for the Camp Creek Meeting
House; but it "appears" that Charles Moorman
- Jr. is the one who legally deeded
the Meeting House property to the Quakers.
- The wording retained in the
abstract reads: "10 April 1764 Charles Moorman of
- Louisa Co., Trinity Par., To John
Davis and Christopher Johnson; 5 shillings; one
- certain acre of land in Trinity
Par. On which sd. Acre the meeting house or place
- of Worship of the people called
Quakers is situate. Sd. Acre is hereby
- Covenanted to be laid off and
bounded so as the sd. Meetinghouse shall be
- exactly or as near as may be in
the Center thereof which said Meeting house is
- Generally called or known by the
Name of Camp Creek meeting House. The
- people called Quakers shall
forever freely use and meet on the sd. Acre for the
- purposes of Public Worship or for
the Regulation of Church Discipline and the
- People Called Quakers shall at all
times have free entry to and from sd.
- Meetinghouse without Trouble,
hindrance or Molestation or Denial of any person
- or persons." [24]
- Returning to the Fredericksville
Parish vestry processioning lists, we learn
- that in 1743 Charles also owned
land in the 17th precinct that fell into the area
- "from Harrisses Creek to Gibsons
Land between the River and the Road" [25]
- overseen by Henry Tate and John
Davis. Neighbors, based on their report to the
- vestry include: "part of Madm.
Johnson, part of Jams. Watsons, part of John
- Mechie, part of Love Statom's.
part of Mrs. Jouets. Part of Mrs. Jane Chapmans.
- part of one tract of John Raglands.
Nathan Watson's Finish'd. some Tracts of
- John Raglands finish'd. part of
Capt. Hollands & some Finish'd. Salem Bocock
- Finish'd. Francis Smethings
Finished. Part of Chas. Moremans. part of John
- Bunches. Jams. Lasley finish'd.
Robert Davis finish'd. Saml Johnsons finish'd.
- Thos. Gibson's Finiah'd. part of
Gilbert Gibsons and our Own." [26]
- Since Charles sold the entire
tract he patented, how he acquired his
- "home plantation" was destroyed
with other Hanover Co. records. However, we
- can pinpoint the location of their
"home planation" as near their 1737 patented
- land through other deeds, parish
records, and his will. He bequeathed his
- residence to his son, Achilles,
who sold it in 1772. The legal description on that
- deed reads: ". both sides of the
South Fork of Pamunkey River . Hudsons
- Creek on John Bunches line . along
a line marked without Survey by Charles
- Mooreman, dec'd, between his son
Charles Mooreman and the above Achelis
- Mooreman . to Hudsons Creek." [27]
His will gave "son Charles three hundred
- and --eventy acres more or less he
lives on" and "son Achilles four hundred
- twenty acres more or less I live
on." The above deed says Achilles' land adjoins
- that of his brother Charles. The
combination of the will and deed "suggests"
- Charles' home plantation was an
undivided 790 acres or so tract. Lacking
- Hanover Co. records, we'll never
know for sure.
- The remaining entries in the
Fredericksville Parish vestry book are
- interesting, if not terribly
informative. In 1747 Charles and Thomas Moorman
- were appointed overseers for the
15th precinct "between Cuffys Creek, Hudson
- Creek and the River." [28] In 1752
Thomas and Charles Moreman "Jr." were
- appointed overseers for "all land
between Hudsons Creek, Camp Creek and
- Machunks Creek". [29] The use of
"Jr." in the 1752 entry shows that two Charles
- Moormans now reside in Louisa
County. The lack of "Jr." or "Sr." in the 1747
- entry suggests that only one
Charles Moorman lived in Louisa at that time. Other
- records show the "father" Charles
in the county, so the 1747 entry is "father"
- Charles and his "son" Thomas. But
the 1752 return shows "brothers" Thomas
- and Charles Jr. as the overseers.
Then in 1760, (after Charles Sr.'s death in
- 1757) we again find "only" Charles
Moorman in records. He then becomes
- Charles Sr. when nephews and his
own son (all named Charles) enter the
- records.
- A Goochland County deed indicates
one Charles Moorman owned
- another tract which eventually
fell into Albemarle County; this one ". on the
- side of hill nigh Carrolls Creek,
a branch of Mountain Falls Creek . " [30] But
- again, we have to be careful about
distinguishing between Charles and his son. I
- think this Goochland / Albemarle
tract is more likely Charles Jr. since his father-
- in-law, Robert ADAMS, owned
property on Carrel's Creek. In fact, this tract might
- be part of the land at the foot of
Sugarloaf Mountain Robert bequeathed in his
- 1738 will to his daughters Mary
Moorman and Judith Clark. [ROBTADMS.txt]
- By all accounts, Charles and
Elizabeth were among the early settlers in
- the area. The real question is:
"When did they become Quakers?" The very first
- time any MOORMAN appears in VA
Quaker records is "1744, 9, 10 Charles & s.
- Thomas, co of a mtg lately settled
in the upper part of Louisa Co."[31] Yet, we
- have other known neighbors (from
processioning lists) who regularly appear in
- Quaker records from 1700 on. I
have no argument with them being charter
- members of Camp Creek Monthly
Meeting; it's the period before Camp Creek
- was organized that I am
discussing. Here's some background from Hinshaw:
- "Many of the charter members of
Camp Creek and Fork Creek
- seem to have been heredity
Friends, but the records would also tend to
- show that the majority of the
membership of this new monthly meeting
- were Friends by recent conversion.
A letter written by Gershom Perdue
- in 1878 seems to uphold this
interpretation. I quote in part:
- `These two families (John & Wm
Johnson) with many others of
- the higher class in the vicinity,
by the preaching of old Joseph Newby
- of lower part of North Carolina,
became Friends and built up Camp Creek
- Monthly Meeting and the meetings
composing it: Carolina meeting,
- Douglas Meeting and Park (Fork)
Meeting. Among other worthies were
- Christopher Clark, the Lynches,
Anthony, Douglas, Moormans, Terrills
- And Ballard and many others ."
Gershom Perdue." [32]
- Charles' Louisa Co. VA will is
dated 9 MAY 1755 and was probated 24
- MAY 1757. [See CHASWILL for
transcription.] Elizabeth's will is dated 29 JAN
- 1761 and was probated 11 MAY,
1765. Presumably each died shortly before
- their wills were submitted to
court. Only five children are named in these wills:
- Thomas, Charles, Achilles, Judith
and Ann. Mary Stewart is working on an in-
- depth report on Thomas and Rachel
(Clark). See the following for Achilles' line:
- [ACHLSWILL.txt; ACHILLES.txt;
ACHLSPII.txt]. I plan to write one on Thomas
- and Ann (Moorman) Martin -- unless
someone volunteers to write it for me. [See
- THOSMRTN.txt for transcription of
his will.] I invite descendants of Charles Jr.
- and Mary (Adams) and John and
Judith (Moorman) Douglas to share information
- on those two lines.
-
------------------------------------
- [1] The Parish Register of Saint
Peter's, New Kent County, Va. From 1680 to
- 1787_, published by the National
Society of the Colonial Dames of
- America, Parish Record Series, No.
2, Richmond, 1904, page 22.
- [2] Ibid, page 33.
- [3] Vestry Book of St. Paul's
Parish, Hanover County, Virginia, 1706-1786,
- transcribed by C. G. Chamberlayne,
reprint ed. 1989, VA State Lib., page
- 27. [Some quotes from notes on
which I didn't record page numbers.]
- [4] Ibid.
- [5] Cavaliers and Pioneers:
Abstracts of VA Land Patents and Grants,
- abstracted by Nell Marion Nugent,
vol. II: 1666-1695, VA St. Lib, 1977.
- [6] Chamberlayne, page 51.
- [7] Vestry Book of St. Peter's
Parish, New Kent Co. Virginia 1684-1786,
- transcribed by C. G. Chamberlayne,
page 21.
- [8] The Quit Rents of Virginia
1704, compiled by Annie Laurie Wright Smith,
- Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc.,
Baltimore, 1980, pages 62-3.
- [9] "Tidewater Virginia Families:
A Magazine of History and Genealogy", vol. 7,
- No. 4, FEB/MAR 1999 within article
"John Burrows, 1608 James City
- County" by Virginia Lee Hutcheson,
page 212.
- [10] Hanover County, VA Court
Records 1733-1735: Deeds, Wills and
- Inventories, abstracted by Rosalie
Edith Davis, 1979. [My notes do not
- include page numbers.]
- [11] Chamberlayne, St. Paul's,
page 257.
- [12] Chamberlayne, St. Paul's,
page 108.
- [13] Cavaliers and Pioneers:
Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants,
- vol. III 1695-1732, abstracted by
Nell Marion Nugent, VA State Library,
- Richmond 1986, 2nd impression,
page 266.
- [14] Ibid, page 348.
- [15] Chamberlayne, St. Paul's,
page 92.
- [16] "A New and Comprehensive
Gazeteer of Virginia." by Joseph Martin,
- 1836.
- [17] Cavaliers and Pioneers: vol.
4 1732-1741 , edited by Denis Hudgins, VA
- Genealogical Society, Richmond,
1994, pages 86; 132.
- [18] Louisa Co. VA Deed Books A
and B 1742-1759 , abstracted and compiled
- by Edith Davis, Bellevue, Wash.
1976, page 1; Deed Book A, pages 7 to
- 10: Charles Moorman to James
Buchanan / Alexander Galaspa.
- [19] ibid, page 55, Deed Book A p.
382-3, James Buchanan to Mumford
- Robinson.
- [20] ibid, page 72-3, Deed Book A,
p. 459-460 Munford Robinson to John Askew.
- [21] Fredericksville Parish Vestry
Book 1742-1787, vol. 1 , edited and compiled
- by Rosalie Edith Davis,
Manchester, MO 1978, page 10.
- [22] Fredericksville Parish Vestry
Book: Indenture and Processioning Returns
- 1742-1787, vol. 2, transcribed and
edited by Rosalie Edith Davis,
- Manchester, MO 1981, pages 1.
- [23] Cavaliers & Pioneers: vol. 5
1741-1749, edited by Dennis Ray Hudgins, VA
- Genealogical Society, Richmond
1994, p. 96.
- [24] Louisa County, Virginia Deed
Books C, C «, D and D «: 1759-1774,
- abstracted and compiled by Rosalie
Edith Davis, Manchester, MO 1977,
- page 38; Louisa Deed Book C «,
page 11-12, Charles Moorman to John
- Davis and Christopher Johnson.
- [25] Davis, Fredericksville vol.
1, page 11.
- [26] Davis, Fredericksvill, vol.
2, page 1-2.
- [27] Davis, page 149; Louisa Deed
Book D «, Achilis Mooreman to James
- Watson 14 SEP 1772, p. 505-7.
- [28] Davis, Fredericksville, vol.
1, page 26.
- [29] ibid. page 52.
- [30] Goochland Co. VA Deeds
1741-1745, abstacted by TLC Genealogy, FL
- 1990, Goochland Deed Bk 4, p. 304
24 NOV 1743 Anthony Pouncy and
- Martin Dauson to Mathew Graves.
- [31] Encyclopedia of American
Quaker Genealogy, by William Wade Hinshaw,
- Ann Arbor, 1950, vol. 6, page 260.
- [32] Ibid, page 284.
- Information re: boundary changes
for parishes and counties from the
- Library of Virginia's "Parish
Lines Diocese of Virginia"; The Handybook for
- Genealogists by Everton and
"forwards" to several of the above books (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/chaseliz.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: before __ ___ 1686
_______________, Green Springs, New Kent Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(unknown author, "E-Mail message," e-mail to unknown recipient,
Stewart, Mary E.; mstewart@kaballero.com; 20 June 2005.).
- Marriage: __ ___ 1703 Elizabeth
REYNOLDS (b. 1688, d. 11 May 1765), daughter of Christopher
REYNOLDS and Eliza Ann/Elizabeth SHARPE; _______________, Green
Springs, Louisa Co., VA (Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com;
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Son: __ ___ 1705 Thomas MOORMAN;
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________.
- Daughter: __ ___ 1711 Judith
MOORMAN; _______________, Greene Springs, Louisa Co., VA (Pete
Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0698.).
- Death: 14 May 1757
_______________, Green Springs, Louisa Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Email: 20 Jun 2005
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; There is no documentation for the birth date or
parentage of the Charles Moorman who married Elizabeth Reynolds.
- However, land records including
the processing records of St. Peters and St. Pauls parisheds of
New Kent and Hanove rcounties lead me to believe that Charles was
the eldest son of Thomas New Kent County. Thomas had land in New
Kent and appears in 1689 as a processioner in St. Peters Parish.
St. Pauls Parish was cut off from St. Peters and Thomas' land was
in the new parish. Charles' land was processioned along with many
of the same people who had been Thomas' neighbors. Although there
is no direct evidence, it is likely that Thomas had died and
Charles, as eldest son, had inherited his land. Later, Charles
moved farther west (near present day Ashland) and his younger
brother, Andrew appears with the same neighbors Charles had
earlier.
- We don't know Charles' birthdate
but it was likely before the known baptismal dates of his
siblings, Mary and Andres (29 Aug 1686 and 4 Nov 1689) (E-mail.)
- Son: Charles MOORMAN
- Son: Achilles MOORMAN
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- Family Group Sheet
- Subject:
Thomas
MOORMAN
(web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; The Moorman family is first found as early as the
14th Century living on the Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England, in
the person of Thomas Moorman b. circa 1593. Other than that he
arrived in this country aboard the Nova Bona as a representative
of the London Land Company, and settled near Charlottesville,
Virginia, no other information has been found on this family's
background. No mention of his wife or children, other than that he
was the father of Zachariah Moorman b. circa 1620, has been found
in Colonial Histories of Virginia (Tillman, Thomas Moorman of
the Isle of Wight, England, p. 9.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Thomas Moorman of the Bona NOva
- In the Records of the Virginia
Company of London, of which there is a manuscript in the Library
of Congress is recorded under date of July 7th, 1620: "Thomas
Moreman signified in his Peticon that hee went to Virginia in a
Ship called the Bona Nova in the yeare 1619 in the Companies
service therein hee still remayneth under the Comaund of Captaine
Mathewe. Butt for so much as hee hath now sattisfied the Company
the charge they have been att in placeinge him there as their
Tennant, hee desyreth his freedome and withall that proporcon of
Land as is usually allotted to others in the like kinde wch the
request the Courte thought verie reasonalbe and did generally
assent thereunto." (p. 402 Vol. I, The Court Book, Government
Printing Office, Washington, 1906.)
- It is said that while Thomas was
in Virginia, his wife gave birth in england in 1620 to his son,
Zachariah. There are no further records of Thomas having lived in
Virginia, so we must assume that he returned there and died there.
It would also seem that his son, Zachariah, came to Virginia to
take up his father's land mentioned in the above court record
(Ambrose, Charles C. Moorman Ancestors, pp. 2-3.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; _Thomas MOORMAN of West Cowes, Isle of Wight,
circa 1630_ [also by Douglas Tucker] My discussion of possible
modifications to birth and marriage dates, especially as relates
to Zachariah Moorman brings up a cer- tain church record on the
Isle of Wight that shows that a Thomas MOORMAN married an Ida
BRADING in Norwood Parish (adjacent to West Cowes) on 11 November
1630. I think it unlikely that this Thomas Moorman was the father
of Zachariah, if only because it was standard practice of the age
to name a first-born son after the father or grandfather. At the
very least, it places a Moor man family on the Isle of Wight at
the same time as Zachariah Moorman is reported to have lived
there. A Peter BRADING has stated interest in the early Brading
family of the Isle of Wight at the e-mail address p.brading@bris.ac.uk
Someone with Internet access and an e-mail address might want to
query him on this Brading/Moorman marriage. Also, there is a small
village on the east side of the Isle of Wight that is named
Brading. Cowes is on the northern side of IoW, directly across
"The Solent" from the estuary that served Southampton. This Thomas
MOORMAN of 1630 also could be Zachariah's older brother who,
according to family legend, went to Holland and later, Germany, as
a Quaker missionary. The Moormann [note two "n"s. LSS] clan of
Damme, Germany is supposedly descended from this Moorman. This may
also tie in with the Moorman male that Dave Goodwin described as a
"Dutchman". (In this vein, I have had several conversations with a
Moorman family in Cincinnati, Ohio that lends some credence to the
reported connection between the Moorman family of the Isle of
Wight and the MOORMANN clan of Damme, Germany, many of whom
emigrated to Cincinnati in the early 19th century. They claim
their branch of the family lived in Ger- many (Damme and elsehwere)
only about 150 years and that their ancestors were religious
refugees from England and Holland. They have family letters from
the 18th century that are written in both German and English.
Interesting!) (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/clndrchg.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________;
- GROCER
- Thomas MOORMAN, Grocer of
Warwickshire
- by Linda Sparks Starr
- SEP 1996
- [If this sounds familiar, some
parts first appeared in last May's
- MRMHDGPG.asc file. I am guilty of
ignoring this earlier MOORMAN
- emigrant, but now think he may
hold a key to our research. He's
- the only one whose residence at
the time he left England is docu
- mented. Again, this is a group
effort; I want to thank all who
- contributed, especially Mary
Stewart who has been pressing his
- case. <grin> LSS]
- According to Dr. Lorand Johnson's
article on the Scottish Mer
- chant James Johnston, among the
passengers of the Bona Nova were:
- Navigator John CLARKE; "soldier"
Thomas MOORMAN who went "in the
- companies service under the
Command of Captain Matthews." (page
- 264 of Johnson's _... Caskieben,
Crimond and Cayesmill_); John
- JOHNSON and John BOYCE, assumed
brother of Sir Robert JOHNSTON
- and his wife Isobel BOYCE. (page
177 Ibid.)
- Now to what the records actually
say. Mary Stewart provides the
- following from the _Magazine of VA
Genealogy_, vol. 33, no. 1,
- page 3-11 (1995). They published a
list of 92 indentured servants
- sent to work VA Company's public
lands (out of 120 passengers) on
- the "Bona Nova" in 1619. The ship
sailed 10 AUG and arrived in
- VA 4 NOV 1619. [For those of you
who are wondering, a three month
- voyage was not unusual for the
time.] The owner, captain and
- navigator ARE NOT NAMED. Neither
does BOYCE of any spelling ap
- pear on the list; but then, the
brother of a knight probably
- didn't come as an indentured
servant. Indentured passengers in
- clude:
- #89 Thomas MOREMAN, age 30, grocer
from Warwickshire
- #21 John JOHNSON, 32, husbandman
for Nottinghamshire
- #55 John CLARKE, age 33, butcher
from Oxfordshire
- "Thanks" goes to Paul Phelps for
forwarding these specifics on
- Thomas Moorman from Susan Myra
Kingsbury, editor, _Records of the
- VA Co. of London_, Washington:
Gov't Printing Office, 1906. We've
- retained the original spelling;
although out of chronological se
- quence, I present specific
information on Thomas first. The peti-
- tion was presented at the 12 JUL
1620 meeting of the VA Co.
- Board. Note that Thomas had been
in VA less than a year.
- "Thomas Moreman signified in his
Peticion that hee went to Vir
- ginia in a ship called the bona
Nova in the yeare 1619 in the Com-
- panies service wherin hee still
remayneth under the Command of
- Captaine Mathews. Butt for so much
as hee hath now sattisfied
- the Company the charge they have
been att in placeinge him there
- as their Tennant, hee desyreth his
freedome and withall that
- proporcion of Land as is usually
allotted to others in the like
- kinde which request the Courte
thought verie reasonable and did
- generally assent thereunto." (vol.
1, page 402)
- An earlier letter, #138 in the
Ferrar Papers at Magdelene Col
- lege, Cambridge, is dated "James
City 11 NOV 1619" from the Gover-
- nor and Council: "As Concerninge
the Company of a hundred new
- men sent hither in the Bona Nova
to become Tennants upon the Com
- panies land and the colledge land
fifty under the Comand of Cap
- taine weldinge and thother fifty
to be Comanded by Lieutennant
- witeaker because ther provision of
victualles beinge but 544
- bushells of English meale at ye
moderatte allowance of two poinds
- of meale a day to a man would not
last them above 5 Monthes and
- 14 dayes ...
- It was tought expedient by the
governor and Counsell to ad
- vise the said two gentlement to
rent out the greatest part of
- ther people to some honest and
sufficient men of the colonie tell
- Cristmas Come twelve month for iii
barrells of Indian Corne and
- 55 (pounds) waight of tobacco a
man wch might abundantlie serve
- them for victualls and Apparrell
for the yeare next ensuinge the
- expiracion of ther time when as
they should returne to the
- publique busines and be able to
instructe the other new Commers
- as they themselves had bine
instructed ...
- yt is thought most Convenient to
seat Captaine weldinge wth
- his remayinder at Harrowatox in
Consortship with Captaine Math
- ewes, both for his ease in
buildinge ther being two howes
- allready builte to his hand and
for his securitye against Indians
- tell he have better strenthe and
meanes to seatt upon the Col
- ledge land for wch purpose he went
to the same place wth Captaine
- Mathewes on Tewesday Night Novemb
15: 1619" (vol. 1, page 226
- 227) "Mag. of VA Genealogy" says
25 men went with Captain Math
- ews, but it doesn't give their
names.
- The College Lands were located on
the north side of the James
- River between the "settlement"
Henrico and the Falls of the
- James. [map page 97, _Chesapeake
in the 17th Century: Essays on
- Anglo-American Society_, edited by
Thad W. Tate and David L. Am
- merman, 1979. Sorry, I didn't note
the publisher.]
- Mary Stewart reports Kingsbury (v.
3, page 262ff) transcribed
- another letter of interest to us.
Written by William Weldon to
- Sir Edwin Sandys and dated 6 MAR
1619/20, Welden describes the
- journey on the Bona Nova, but
mostly complains about the lack of
- "promised" provisions.
- The VA Co. record proves that
Thomas WAS IN VA when he signed the
- petition; he also received land in
exchange for his services.
- The big question is, what happened
to him and the land? Did he
- sell the land and return to
England with the profits? Did he
- marry and leave sons to inherit
the property? Was it his land
- Zachariah came to in 1670? Or his
land that another Thomas Moor
- man was living on in 1677?
- Was he the ONLY MOORMAN to
emigrate prior to 1670? I am unaware
- of another recorded person with
that surname -- the operative
- word here is "recorded". I was
struck by the following comment
- about a pre-1700 New England
practice when I came across it this
- summer. Page 51, Early Starrs in
Kent and New England, by Hosea
- Starr Ballou, Boston:Starr Fam
Assoc, 1944 says without citing
- his source: "By English custom
title papers affecting real estate
- were usually not recorded in
'Proprietors Records' of the borough
- or township or in records at the
shiretown." Continuing along
- this same line, but at least in VA
records, Mary Stewart
- recently related one example of
land passing within a family
- (father to eldest son then
possibly to his son) on which there
- were no "recorded" contemporary
deeds. She explained the first
- time deeds were recorded was years
later when the land passed
- "out" of the family.
- Taking all this into account,
along with the knowledge we're deal-
- ing with counties whose early
deeds are not extant -- We cannot
- say with certainty that THIS
Thomas Moorman DID NOT leave descen
- dants in VA. On the other hand,
neither can we say with cer
- tainty that he DID. I think we
should take another look at the
- index to vol. 1, Nugent _Cavaliers
& Pioneers_. Here's two EX
- AMPLES ONLY where clerks or
transcribers COULD HAVE changed MOOR
- MAN to a similar surname: Thomas
MORE patent dated MAY 1623;
- Thomas MORLAND patent for land
"now" York Co. 5 MAR 1648. I'm
- not saying either of these patents
ARE for MOORMANS; I'm just
- saying we need to consider the
possibility and look closely for
- and at other examples.
- What specifically do we know about
THIS Thomas Moorman? He was a
- 30 year old grocer -- not soldier
-- of Warwickshire, England in
- 1619. Thus he was born 1588 or
1589 depending on birth month;
- and "probably" he was born in or
near Warwickshire, England.
- This makes sense, for Warwickshire
is adjacent and just south of
- an area called "the west
midlands". I BELIEVE this is the "moors"
- or grasslands where the name
surely suggests ALL MOORMANs orig
- nate. We also know Thomas was a
grocer by trade. Just what did
- this mean in 1619? I ASSUME grocer
meant dealing with vegetables
- and food stuffs other than meats
and cheeses? What skills would
- a grocer develop?
- We also know Thomas decided to
make a major change in his life in
- 1619. According to Tate and
Ammerman, English society late 16th
- and early 17th century was marked
by a sharp increase in popula
- tion along with steep inflation
which cut the purchasing power of
- wages. That's as good a reason for
relocating as they come.
- Since he was a tradesman, I ASSUME
he was a younger son who
- didn't inherit his father's land,
or in this case, the store. Or
- perhaps he was a "clerk" in a
grocery where the eldest son in
- herited the store/or is old enough
to take over the "clerking"
- role in 1619. On a different
front, but admittedly least likely
- -- did he own the shop and left
his wife behind to run it while
- he checked out conditions in VA?
- All we really know about him is
that, as a grocer, he couldn't
- save enough money to pay his own
passage to VA. That brings us
- to the question -- Why VA? Was
getting land part of the "up
- front" deal? Tradition developed
that indentured servants
- received "something" when their
period of service was over. But,
- how could the VA Co. pay Thomas's
passage to VA and then give him
- land after less than a year of
service? Remember this was a time
- when they couldn't even give
long-promised land to their own
- stockholders. [see altlnpii.asc]
And, when we take into account
- the ocean voyage back to England,
Thomas had been in VA only four
- to six months when he signed the
petition. Does this indicate he
- signed the indenture papers late
spring 1619 and that his
- "service" to the Company began
BEFORE he set foot in VA? By the
- way, what happened to the seven
year indenture-ships I remember
- from my school days? One year
seems pretty short to me. I know
- that later, a shorter time was
given IF the skills of the servant
- were especially needed (e.g.
teachers). For the life of me, I
- can't imagine what "grocer" skills
were needed in VA in 1620?
- Turning now to page 176
Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors of
- Members of the Nat'l Soc Colonial
Dames XVII (1915-1975). It
- says the Thomas Moorman, landowner
and Vestryman who died in 1647
- in VA, married Elizabeth CLARK. It
also indicates Zachariah Moor
- man was a landowner -- something
we've been unable to cor
- roborate. Someone came up with
enough evidence to convince the
- Colonial Dames that _a_ Thomas
Moorman died in 1647 in VA. Is
- this Thomas the grocer? Is he the
same Thomas Moorman whose bir
- thyear is given as 1593 by Spencer
F. Tillman in Esse Quam
- Videri: The Family Record of the
MOORMAN and Allied Families in
- America from 1620 to 1967? Where
is any of this information
- found? Do they identify a name
change in records we haven't? Are
- the Colonial Dames records worth
checking?
- Some researchers say "the grocer"
returned to England where he
- fathered Zachariah. Allowing nine
months for a birth, we have to
- do something with Zachariah's
birthyear; this Thomas was ob
- viously NOT in England during the
necessary timeframe to *father*
- Zachariah b. 1620. Doug Tucker
went into this in "Miscellaneous
- Moorman Tidbits" NOV 1995: "As for
the mariner named Thomas
- Moreman who sailed to VA in 1619
on the Bona Nova and stayed on
- and subsequently (in 1620)
requested his freedom and land share
- from The VA Co., I doubt he was
the father of Zachariah Moorman.
- In the first place he sailed to VA
in 1619 and did not return to
- England. Zachariah was reported
born in 1620 and to have entered
- the English Army at age 19 in 1639
as an officer. Since army of
- ficers came from the English
gentry, this is not a likely outcome
- for a young man if his father had
sailed away as an indentured
- servant to America and never
returned."
- Thomas is not listed among those
who died in VA between APR 1622
- and FEB 1623; nor is his name on
the muster of 16 FEB 1623 or the
- muster of 1624-5. [_The Original
Lists of Persons of Quality_ by
- John Camden Hotton, reprint 1962
GenPubCo from 2nd ed 1890.]
- This means he either died BEFORE
the Indian massacre 1622,
- returned to England, OR was
overlooked on one of the musters.
- The latter is possible, but not
likely. Could he have been in
- England "on business" when one or
both of the musters were taken
- and returned afterward? Not likely
since no one claimed him for a
- "headright".
- Tate and Ammerman provide some
interesting "food for thought"
- here. (Sorry, this from typed
notes in which I didn't jot down
- specifics.) 70-to-85% of emigrants
to the Chesapeake area in the
- 17th century came as indentured
servants; they were usually be
- tween the ages of 15 and 24 with
20 and 21 the "mean". [Thus,
- the three examples from the Bona
Nova were ten years older than
- "normal". Anyone want to speculate
"why" and "what it means if
- anything" to our study?] Immigrant
women didn't marry until mid
- 20s, although native born women
were 16 to 19 when they married.
- Immigrant males didn't marry until
late 20s, and in general,
- males lived only until about age
45. [Perhaps we should look
- again at some of the "supposed"
ages for these people.]
- One last point which doesn't seem
to "fit" anywhere, but ties in
- with the Bona Nova so I'll include
here: According to Dr. Lorand
- Johnson's article on James
Johnston, in 1619 the Alderman Robert
- JOHNSON was _personally
responsible_ for sending the "Bona Nova"
- to Jamestown. Stated, but not
stressed in the article, is the
- fact that the Alderman was a
deputy treasurer of the VA Company.
- Isn't it more, or just as likely,
he merely OK'ed the spending
- of COMPANY funds for the voyage,
and not his own?
- And this just in from Tom
Rightmyer re: Rev. George Keith. [see
- altlnpii.asc] He cites: Brydon
_VA's Mother Church_, I:42; Good
- win, _The Colonial Church in VA_,
page 284; Jester _Adventurers_,
- 53, 354; Brydon "New Light", Hist.
Mag of the Episcopal Church 10
- (1941): 86 n.33:
- George Keith b. c1585; ordained
c1617; minister to 1635? d.
- ?1635 VA.
- (Keith, Robert) born about 1585.
Minister in Bermuda. Came
- to VA 1617 in ship George, with
son John who was born about 1613.
- Minister, Elizabeth City to before
OCT 10, 1624, when he
- moved to be Minister of Martin's
Hundred Parish. Claimed land as
- clerk and Pastor of Kiskiack (Cheskiack)
Parish, York Co. July 9,
- 1635. Said to have been a Puritan
-
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/grocer.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
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- GROCPTII
- The GROCER: Part II
- by Linda Sparks Starr
- OCT 1996
- My previous paper on Thomas
MOORMAN "the grocer" of Warwickshire,
- England and Virginia has elicited
more comments than any of my
- other files, and the "snails"
haven't had a chance to weigh in
- yet. Therefore, I've decided to
write a follow-up while interest
- is high. I want to thank every one
for their contributions.
- I posted a query on va-roots
asking about the specific occupation
- of grocer, but included butcher
and husbandman in the body of the
- query. Nancy Bradley of T.L.C.
Genealogy Books sent me the
- Middle English definition of
"grocer" from _Webster's New Univer
- sal Unabridged Dictionary_: "grocere,
a corruption of grosser, a
- grocer, a wholesale dealer ...
[and the Low or Late Latin] gros
- sarius, a wholesale dealer, from
grossus, great, gross." Chuck
- Hamrick wrote more, quoting from
Oxford English Dictionary: "One
- who buys and sells in the gross,
i.e. in large quantities, a
- wholesale dealer or merchant; also
with mention of the article
- dealt in, e.g. fish. (The company
of Grocers, said to have been
- incorporated in 1344, consisted of
wholesale dealers in spices
- and foreign produce: hence prob.
the later sense.) 2.) Obs. A
- trader who deals in spices, dried
fruits, sugar and, in general,
- all articles of domestic
consumption except those that are con
- sidered the distinctive wares of
some other class of tradesmen.
- In 18-19th c. tea, coffee, and
cocoa became characteristic ar
- ticles of the grocer's trade.
After 1860 many grocers held
- licences to sell beer, wines and
spirits, in bottles."
- Martin Roberts expounded on this
theme more: "the definitions
- today would almost be the same:
grocer--sells fresh vegetables
- and fruits; butcher--butchers and
sells meats; husbandman--raises
- animals to sell to butchers or
other breeders. Any of these
- people could be proprietors or in
bondage to others. The title is
- a function, not a position. But at
that time, grocers were most
- likely to be independent, butchers
next (every estate had one),
- and husbandmen would be more
likely to be serfs."
- Martin continued that if we didn't
have the advance technology we
- do today, our lives would differ
little from those who lived in
- previous centuries. Amory Hale
continued in this vein. "When I
- was stationed in England ... back
in 1952-54, we lived in a
- trailer court just off the RAF
Station. We had a Green Grocer
- (who sold veggies and fruit), a
butcher (who sold fresh meat),
- and an ice man (who sold block
ice). They had a regular route
- that they followed to sell their
products. I suspect that their
- occcupations were the same as back
in 1619."
- Warwickshire is so far removed
from the port cities London and
- Bristol, I personally have a hard
time thinking that Thomas Moor
- man had much to do with selling
spices or other foreign produce,
- including fish. I think Thomas
Moorman dealt with "local"
- vegetables and fruit, but this may
be a personal hang-up of mine.
- The most interesting response to
my query came from "Randwulf"
- who has a grocer from Cheshire,
England in his lineage. He passed
- along the information that Grocers
were one of the 12 major
- guilds and were regulated by law.
He added that the term as he
- understood it, was to a person
engaged in moving "wholesale
- merchandise". Guilds are housed in
buildings on the central
- downtown plaza of larger European
cities; they often have beauti
- ful flags hanging from the top
windows. I would think they have
- "papers" on their members, and
papers mean information, possibly
- of a "genealogical" nature. Anyone
want to volunteer to search
- for the archives of the Grocer's
guild? One person told me he
- had downloaded information on
guilds and promised to forward the
- web address; he hasn't and I lost
his name and address.
- Back to specifics on Thomas
Moorman. Richard Hopper wondered if
- he had something to do with
provisioning the Bona Nova, filling
- the job of an Army Quartermaster
or Navy Storekeeper. I THINK he
- may have worked for the VA Company
longer than we've thought, but
- doubt he had anything to do
specifically with the Bona Nova's
- provisions. But this falls into
the category of speculation when
- what we really need is facts.
- I can't offer "specific facts" on
this Thomas Moorman, but I have
- turned up some interesting, and
relevant I think, data on the VA
- Company itself. Since this file is
about Thos Moorman, I'll re
- late only what pertains to him;
until further notice, page num
- bers with quotation marked entries
come from: _American Slavery
- American Freedom: The Ordeal of
Colonial Virginia_, by Edmund S.
- Morgan, Norton & Co:NY, paperback
edition reissued 1995. Morgan
- cites his sources; I'll copy the
pertinent information from his
- footnotes within brackets. Morgan
doesn't have a bibliography
- page as such, so getting
publishing data requires a bit more ef
- fort; if anyone wants to check a
specific source, I'll search his
- "A Note of the Sources" for it and
send. Morgan says the
- authoritative work on the VA
Company is W. F. Craven _The Dissolu-
- tion of the VA Co._, NY 1932; he
also suggests _The VA Co. of Lon-
- don 1606-1624_, Jamestown 350th
Anniversary Historical booklet,
- No. 5, Williamsburg 1957. [Mary
adds _The VA Adventure_ by Ivor
- Noel Hume, NY:Alfred A. Knopf,
1994.]
- According to Morgan, the VA Co.
was formed in 1606; the original
- intent was to use the money from
sales of shares in the company
- to "send over shiploads of
England's unemployed laborers as well
- as skilled specialists. Such men
would be servants of the com
- pany and not entitled to a share
in the proceeds. They would work
- for the company for seven years in
return for their transporta
- tion and then be free to work as
they chose, taking advantage of
- the limitless opportunities of the
New World ..." [pages 45-46]
- Morgan has a long discussion of
problems in England at the begin
- ning of the 17th century. The
population was growing by leaps and
- bounds and there just wasn't
enough jobs to go around. Parlia
- ment adopted a policy that Morgan
calls "conservation of employ
- ment" [page 65] which [page 66]
"made it illegal for a man to
- practice a trade until he had
become a master through seven years
- of apprenticeship. Even then,
until he was thirty years old or
- married, he was supposed to serve
some other master of the
- trade." He provides examples
proving the courts did enforce these
- provisions.
- [p 66] "Employers in most trades
were required to hire labor only
- by the year, not by the day or
hour." [Tawney and Power, _Tudor
- Economic Documents_, I, page 335].
Morgan explains the result of
- this policy "tended to depress
wages and to diminish the amount
- of work expected ... A man was
supposed to have only one skill
- and was not supposed to impinge on
the jobs of others by undertak-
- ing any task outside his province
... Plowing, for example, seems
- to have been a special skill--a
plowman was paid at a higher rate
- than ordinary farm workers." [p
67] Rightly or wrongly, Morgan
- makes the case for this being the
reason the early colonists
- didn't produce enough food to feed
themselves, even after ten
- years in VA.
- According to Morgan page 82: "The
communal production of food
- seems to have been somewhat
modified after the reorganization of
- 1609 by the assignment of small
amounts of land to individuals
- for private gardens. [He offers
three citations if anyone is in
- terested] It is not clear who
received such allotments, perhaps
- only those who came at their own
expense. Men who came at com
- pany expense may have been
expected to continue working ex
- clusively for the common stock
until their seven-year terms ex
- pired. At any rate, in 1614, the
year when the first shipment of
- company men concluded their
service, Governor Dale apparently as
- signed private allotments to them
and to other independent
- 'farmers.' Each man got three
acres, or twelve acres if he had a
- family. He was responsible for
growing his own food plus two and
- a half barrels of corn annually
for the company as a supply for
- newcomers to tide them over the
first year. And henceforth each
- 'farmer' would work for the
company only one month a year."
- [Hamor, _True Discourse, p17-19;
John Rolfe, "Virginia in 1616.",
- VA Historical Register & Literary
Advertiser, I (July 1848), pps
- 101-13, at 107.] Before others
jump to any conclusions about
- Thomas Moorman based on the above
statement (as I admit I did),
- this only shows that some
indentured servants did get land after
- completing their service to the
company, but only under Governor
- Dale in 1614. The VA Co. appears
to have changed its "rules"
- every few months.
- The VA Co. reorganized again in
1618. The four factions agreed
- only to Sir Edwin Sandys as
Treasurer and that men in VA needed
- more incentive; land was the
obvious choice. [page 94] "In order
- to make settlement more attractive
to England's impoverished
- laborers, he [Sandys] offered an
alternative to servitude: per
- sons sent at company expense would
be assigned land to work as
- sharecropping tenants under the
direction of a company agent.
- They would turn over half of their
earnings to the company for
- seven years, and then each would
get fifty acres of his own."
- [_Records of the VA Co._, III,
page 99-100. "Though the records
- do not say how the tenants were to
be supported until they were
- able to raise a crop for
themselves, the company evidently ex
- pected to furnish them with
provisions for the first months."]
- "Sandy's managed to send several
hundred such tenants to work
- lands set aside for the company.
And in order to speed up settle
- ment, he induced various members
of the company to join in sub
- corporations or associations to
found 'particular plantations'
- peopled by tenants on the same
terms. Investors in these associa
- tions obtained a hundred acres for
every share of stock in the
- company plus fifty acres for every
tenant they sent to occupy
- their lands. The lands of each
association would form a separate
- little community within the
colony." [page 94] Morgan's later
- example was iron works; Thomas and
the other passengers were
- specifically brought over to work
the College Lands. Were they
- part of this scheme? I don't think
so, for Morgan mentions an
- "earlier project" to establish a
college for Indian youth page
- 98: "Ten thousand acres had been
set aside at Henrico for its en
- dowment, and Sandys sent a hundred
tenants to begin producing for
- it. [RVC III, p102, 115] To take
charge of them in 1621 went
- George Thorpe ..."
- Page 106-7: "...servants who
wanted to go to Virginia were will
- ing to pledge several years' work,
usually four to seven years,
- in return for transportation and
maintenance." The cost to an
- individual for a servant's passage
was "about six pounds ster
- ling; his provision and clothes
for the voyage and to start him
- out in the New World might run
another four to six pounds." [RVC
- III, pp499-500; Neill, _Virginia
Carolorum_, p109-11; VMHB, XIII
- (1905-6), p387; Bruce, _Economic
History_, I, p629; Bullock,
- _Virginia Impartially Examined_,
p49.]
- This is the last from Morgan's
book for this particular file;
- I'll turn now to comments
generated by my grocer.asc. file; you
- might want to refer to it for
citations and particulars. Mary
- Stewart sent a transcription of
the article on the Bona Nova
- which appeared in _Magazine of VA
Genealogy_, vol 33, no. 1
- (1995), p. 3-11. The passengers
were a bit older than I had
- suspected -- 25.35 being the norm
for this particular ship.
-
- Passenger Thomas Moreman on the
Bona Nova in 1619 listed his age
- as 30, his occupation as grocer,
and "from" Warwickshire. [It
- isn't clear if this is birthplace
or residence.] My husband as
- sures me "assumptions" are the
roots of most later problems; with
- this in mind, I raise the
following points: Thomas was one of
- three grocers, but the only one
from Warwickshire. Can we SURMISE
- that he was not recruited IN
Warwickshire? Does this mean he was
- living / working elsewhere? Or,
was he wandering around England
- looking for work?
- That brings us to why? he chose
manual labor in VA over a job in
- England he spent seven years
training for. Can we assume he
- didn't have a job? He had
apparently finished his apprenticeship
- as grocer; according to Morgan, he
couldn't legally hold a
- "regular" job in his field until
he was 30 years old or married.
- Thomas was 30. Was he married?
We'd all like to know the answer
- to that question! If he didn't
have a job, would he have taken a
- wife? I'm inclined to say "no" to
both of these questions; I
- don't think, in this era, men took
wives without ways (jobs) to
- provide for them; if he had a
future in England, I don't see him
- heading off to VA. But that's a
personal OPINION; we don't have
- any specific facts.
- Back to the MVG article. The
assortment of occupations are inter-
- esting. Morgan says the earlier
investors in the VA Co. had envi-
- sioned a diverse colony with many
different "labor" activities;
- they actively encouraged people of
certain occupations to re
- settle in VA. But like Mary, I
can't see why VA needed a draper,
- glover, embroiderer or even three
grocers. VA certainly didn't
- need the "impoverished" 7
gentlemen and 1 esquire who also are on
- the list.
- According to his petition, Thomas
Moorman went to Capt. Mathews
- when the group of servants were
split up. Thus we know specifi
- cally where Thomas Moorman spent
the winter of 1619/20. Citing
- a letter by John Rolfe [per MVG]
those who were "seated wth one
- Capt Mathewes 3. myles beyond
Henrico for his owne securytie, and
- to his great content."
- 97 servants were accounted for in
VA, but only 92 appear on the
- list. After much explanatory
discussion, the author says he
- didn't find anything to prove all
92 were company servants, but
- neither did he find anything to
show any of these individuals
- were "planters" before 1625, and
none "received land as a
- headright for paying his own
passage." The author explored other
- records for names of other
passengers--interesting for some of
- us: Robert ADAMS was brought as a
"personal" servant of Capt. Wil-
- liam Weldon on this voyage. He
[Adams], however, is listed as a
- freeman in the early 1620s.
[Before anyone jumps to conclusions,
- the link between this Robert Adams
and the husband of Mourning
- has not, and probably cannot, be
proven.]
- Of the 92 passengers, these are
the ones we MIGHT be interested
- in following up on in the future
-- based on surnames only:
- #21 John JOHNSON, 32 husbandman
from Nottinghamsheir (sic)
- #30 John RENNOLDS, 20 husbandman
from Hartfordsheir
- #55 John CLARKE, 33 bucher (sic)
from Oxffordsheir
- #76 Robert SIMPSON, 34 husbandman
from Buckinghamsheir
- #89 Thomas MOREMAN, 30 grocer from
Warwicksheir
- Mary Stewart warns we may be
reading more "into" these petitions
- than are there. She suggests
reading very carefully this
- paragraph from the MVG article:
"Although the list does not name
- the vessel or give a date, it
certainly concerns the 1619 Bona
- Nova [discussion of men appearing
on 1625 census Henrico and
- Elizabeth City follows] ... The
year 1619 is proved by petitions
- submitted to the Virginia Company
court in London on 3 April 1620
- and 12 July 1620 seeking freedom
for Bartholomew Lawton (#85) and
- Thomas Moreman (#89), who had been
sent as company servants on
- the Bona Nova. The second Virginia
voyage of the Bona Nova did
- not leave England until August
1620."
- Mary "reads" this as the "two
petitions were cited to prove the
- 1619 date for the Bona Nova, not
for what they reveal about Law
- ton & Moreman. I think it is
certainly possible that there were
- more petitions which we haven't
seen. I'd like to see the actual
- petition if it exists -- perhaps
it has more info. As far as I
- know, we don't know what the terms
were for these men who signed
- on with the VA Company. I think
the information we have is too
- scant at this point to create much
of a scenario."
- I agree with Mary Stewart --
finding the specific petition sub
- mitted by Thomas Moorman (and any
others not mentioned in
- Kingsbury's transcription of the
VA Co. records) is high on our
- "most wanted" list. The most
likely location for the petition is
- the Ferrar Papers; some of these
can be searched on the net
- through the VA Library I THINK
although I've never managed to get
- in to them. The MVG article gives
the specific microfilm info for
- the passenger's list -- MS 1583d
Ferrar Papers, reel 2, microfilm
- doc. 295; cover page as folded,
with indorsement -- Thomas' peti
- tion might be on that reel or at
least in the same group.
- To my suggestion in grocer.asc
about looking at other surnames
- similar to MOORMAN for possible
clerk's error in transcribing,
- Mary wrote: "I'm very leery of the
idea of Moore, Morlan(d) etc.
- as a misspelled version of MOORMAN
in the land Office ... the
- patent itself was the last step in
a long process requiring lots
- of paperwork. I have a lot of
trouble thinking that such a gross
- error would be repeated without
being caught somewhere in the
- process." However, Elizabeth
Harris did check Nugent vol. 1 for
- similarities to MOORMAN. She wrote
"There are a zillion Moores,
- and quite a few Moreland, Morton,
and other not-too-distant
- names, but nothing that looked
likely to me."
- Two of our group are officers/past
officers of Colonial Dames
- chapters--Kay Hudson and Mary
Stewart; both replied to my ques
- tion about a reference in a
Colonial Dames book. Kay found two
- references to Thomas Moorman in
the Colonial Dames Library in DC:
- The one citing Tillman [Stephen
not Spencer as I have it] has
- "Thomas Moorman b. c1665 m.
Elizabeth CLARK or Elizabeth SIMPSON,
- probably a second marriage for
Elizabeth Clark, and settled in
- Nansemond Co., VA, formerly Louisa
Co., and finally in New Kent
- Co., VA. The records of St.
Peter's Episcopal Church of New
- Kent, shows "Elizabeth Moorman,
dau of Thomas and Elizabeth Moor
- man, bapt 29 AUG 1686." Children:
Mary Elizabeth b. 27 AUG 1686,
- Andrew born circa 1689, and
Charles b. 16 Aug 1688 who d.y."
- The second reference is from "The
Second Boat", vol. 3, No. 3,
- November 1982, Second Boat Lineage
#49: "(1.) Thomas Moorman,
- born ca.1593, lived in Hampshire,
England. He visited Virginia in
- 1619 aboard the Bona Nova. Thomas
died ca.1640. (2.) Zachariah
- Moorman, b. 1620. Isle of Wight,
Hampshire, England; m. ca.1641
- Belfast, Ireland, Mary Ann
(Elizabeth) Candler; came to America
- aboard the Glasgow in 1690 (his
son already here); d.1702, Nan
- semond Co., VA. (3.) Thomas
Moorman, b. 1649, Isle of Wight; d.
- Virginia; m. Elizabeth SIMPSON.
- The book I cited gave 1647 as a
date for Thomas Moorman; Mary
- Stewart says that is his date of
birth, not death; and he is
- Zachariah's son, not Thomas
Moorman the grocer. She has the
- Tillman records; he does not cite
his source for the above dates.
- In conclusion, I must say we know
a great deal about one year in
- the life of Thomas Moorman, grocer
-- his age, thus specific bir
- thyear of c1589; probable place of
birth or residence in 1619;
- and his occupation. We also know
he came to VA in 1619 as an in
- dentured servant for the VA
Company. He "wintered" with other
- servants north of the Henrico
settlement under the "command" of
- Capt. Mathews. He received his
freedom and a "portion of land"
- in 1620; he was still in VA at the
time. He was not on the list
- of those killed by Indians in 1622
or on the list of survivors;
- nor is he found on any later lists
of VA residents.
- I think we can safely conclude, he
either returned to VA shortly
- after getting word from London
that he was free or he died before
- the 1622 massacre. His land is
never mentioned in extant
- records; he could have sold it. It
likely reverted to the Com
- pany if he died intestate. Morgan
page 94 offers another pos
- sibility: Gov. Dale didn't pass
"permanent title to the property"
- he gave away in 1614; perhaps
Thomas' land fell under this rule
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/grocptii.txt;
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- Research: __ ___ ____
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- MOORMAN and CANDLER
- by Linda Sparks Starr
- MAY 1996
- [This represents the e-mail
messages received prior to end of
- March which were filed away in one
of my fits of house cleaning.
- Again, I've tried to use my
initials within my bracketed "aside"
- comments throughout. LSS]
- Back in early March Paul Phelps
forwarded Dave Moorman's findings
- of Spencer F. Tillman's 1968
manuscript on the MOORMAN family
- which he located in the
Breckinridge Co. KY Archives in Har
- dinsburg. [A very good source for
anyone with people in the
- area. LSS] Mary Stewart, who is
working with a later version of
- Tillman's manuscript provided more
details on Mr. Tillman. "Col.
- Stephen Tillman died c.1969. He
lived in Silver Spring, MD, and
- as far as I have ever been able to
discover, his notes went with
- him. Two of my aunts worked with
him for years ... " [How is
- he related to Stephen Frederick
Tillman who wrote the REYNOLDS
- book, which supposedly gives the
line for Elizabeth who married
- Charles Moorman? It'll surprise no
one to hear I have difficulty
- with his findings too. LSS]
- Tthe "story" of this Thomas partly
checks out -- Thomas Moorman
- b. c.1593 on the Isle of Wight
came to VA on the ship 'Nova Bona'
- about 1619 as a representative of
the London Land Company...
- Thomas had a son Zachariah b.
c1620 on the Isle of Wight."
- Paul made a trip to the Library of
Congress where he located the
- following in _Records of the VA
Co. of London_, published 1906.
- [Paul notes that he "regularized"
the spelling and rearranged the
- items a bit to benefit the
narrative; I admit to abbreviating and
- editing even more. LSS]:
- * A letter from the Gov. of the
Council to the VA Co. in
- London dated 11 NOV 1619 refers to
"the company of a hundred new
- men sent hither in the Bona Nova
to become tenants upon the
- Company's land and the College
land." Since the Co. didn't send
- enough supplies to feed 100 men
over the winter, they were
- "rented" to established planters
for 12 months. One of those
- planters was...Capt. Samuel
MATHEWS, who was clearing land at
- "Harrowatox" near the falls of the
James, in what is now Henrico
- Co.
- * In NOV 1620, a Thomas MOREMAN
petitioned the Co., saying
- "that he went to VA in a ship
called the Bona Nova in the year
- 1619 in the Company's service,
wherein he still remains under the
- command of Capt. Mathews." Having
served out his year, and
- "satisfied... the charge they have
been at in placing him there
- as their tenant," he asks for his
freedom and "that proportion of
- land as is usually allotted to
others in the like kind." The
- Court (which I take to be the
Board of Directors meeting in Lon
- don) thought this request "very
reasonable and did generally as
- sent thereunto."
- * However, there is no record of
the grant or patent of
- land, and no other mention of
Thomas MOREMAN/MOORMAN in the four
- volumes of the records. There is
none...in the list of those who
- died between Apr 1622 and Feb
1623, nor in the muster of 16 FEB
- 1623, nor in the muster of
1624-1625. He may have died before
- the massacre of 22 MAR 1622, but
it's also possible that he
- returned home. [Doug Tucker
discusses the "problems" with VA
- Patents prior to 1650 which I'll
pass along when I locate it
- among the messages I haven't
gotten to yet. LSS]
- * Capt. Samuel Mathews went on to
become a major figure in
- Jamestown, sitting on the Gov's
Council and leading a large plan
- tation 'over against James City'
-- that is, in what is now Isle
- of Wight or Surry Co... He also
seems to have made one trip back
- to England in 1622: on 20 NOV 1622
the Court approved a patent
- to "Capta: Sam: Mathewes' who,
with several others, 'have under
- taken to transport 100 persons
apiece to VA." (A similar patent
- was granted to a "Thomas More" in
May 1623, but that's a reach.)
- And in the muster of 1624-25 it's
indicated that Capt. Mathews
- came to VA on the ship
'Southampton' in 1622, although we know
- he's found in the records in 1619.
He may have returned home for
- good before 1627, when a deed
refers to "land of Capt. Samuel
- Mathews now in the tenure of
Thomas Howell." In 1652, however, a
- "prominent Virginian" named Samuel
Mathews was one of three com
- missioners in command of a
Parliamentary fleet sent from England
- to secure the surrender of MD and
VA to the Commonwealth; his
- son, Samuel Mathews Jr.
(c1630-1660) was the last Gov. of VA
- before the Restoration. (Recall
that Thomas Moreman's putative
- son, Zachariah Moorman, also
served in the Parliamentary forces.)
- Richard Hopper then added another
interesting twist to this. [I
- need help with your citation --
CCC ? LSS]: "In 1619 Alderman
- Robert JOHNSON sent to VA the ship
'Bona Nova' and among the pas
- sengers were 'Navigator John
CLARKE', and a Soldier 'Thomas
- MOORMAN'. John CLARKE sailed from
the port of London in the
- month of March, taking the route
for the 'Xacan', since that was
- the name of VA, on the coast of
Florida, with three ships, one of
- 300 tons, in which he came
himself, and the others of 150 and
- 90". Also in the Bona Nova was
Thomas MOORMAN, who went 'in the
- Companies service under the
command of Captain MATTHEWS. [CCC
- page 264] And also on the Bona
Nova were John JOHNSON and John
- Boyce, assumed to have been the
brother of Sir Robert JOHNSTON
- and his wife Isobel Boyce (Boys)."
(page 177) [Is Sir Robert
- kin in anyway to Penelope's
father, Edward, or Benj. Johnston who
- m. dau of Capt Xpher Clark? LSS]
- Paul then raised the following
questions: "Could this Thomas
- MOREMAN b. c1593 be the father or
some other relation of our
- Zachariah MOORMAN b. c1620? Did he
die in VA between 1620 and
- 1622, or did he cash in his patent
and return home in 1622, pos
- sibly in the company of Capt.
Samuel Matthews? Were either of
- these individuals from the Isle of
Wight, England? Is there any
- evidence that when Zachariah
MOORMAN came to VA in 1670, he was
- following in his fathr's
footsteps, or possibly coming to claim
- his patrimony, land that had been
granted to Thomas MOREMAN in
- 1620?
- Mary Stewart located one more
interesting tidbit on this first
- MOREMAN immigrant: "Last year VA
Magazine of Genealogy [vol 33,
- no 1, FEB 95, p. 11] printed an
article derived from the Ferrar
- papers including the passenger
list of the Bona Nova which lists
- 'Thomas Moreman (age) 30 grocer
Warwickshire'. On 12 JUL 1620
- Thomas petitioned the VA Co. Court
in London for his freedom [op.
- cit. p.6]. Mary then added that
"the vast majority of the pas
- sengers, including Thomas, were
indentured servants. If this
- Thomas is the presumed father of
Zachariah, I think we've been
- looking in the wrong place." In a
later e-mail Mary wrote: "If
- we are ever able to connect back
to England it may be through in
- vestigating Thomas of Warwickshire
and what happened to him. I
- think this is the most interesting
possibility I've seen in a
- long time...and a whole new
methodology to learn."
- Toward the Isle of Wight end,
David Goodwin wrote 20 MAR 1996:
- "I have done some long-distance
checking of Isle of Wight vital
- statistics which turned up
nebulous information about Moormans
- there...it seems there were a
number of them, and the oldest
- reference I found described a
Moorman (Moreman) as a Dutchman.
- ... I have also been in touch with
a Moorman in a town on the
- mainland across from IofW who sent
me an interesting letter about
- Moormans on IofW (currently) who
simply refused to talk with him
- ... In it [his letter] he shows
possible connections to Moormans
- in Devon and Cornwall. I later
found a long biography of the
- Moorman he referred to who was a
big-league religious type in a
- town near Exeter, an interesting
location for me. ..."
- [I think we've exhausted all
possibilities of finding the Thomas
- Moorman who signed the 1677
grievance in New Kent Co. in earlier
- VA records UNLESS he is the one in
the 1670 patent record. That
- one could even be a descendant of
the earlier Thomas who was born
- in VA but traveled out of the
colony for a period of time.
- Perhaps looking at this earlier
Thomas Moreman and his descen
- dants (if any) in VA records and
in Warwickshire is the best
- course to take right now. I, for
one, have not gone through ALL
- early VA county records looking
for the surname. Has anyone
- else? LSS]
- Turning now to the MOORMAN legend
itself, Mary wrote MAR 19: "I
- have a LOT of questions about the
early tradition, starting with
- Thomas the grocer of Warwickshire.
How on earth did Bro. Ambrose
- (and I'm pretty sure he is the
source) come up with arms for a
- grocer. He was clearly an
indentured servant, not an 'ancient
- planter'. The name itself makes me
think the family was
- originally farmers/sheepherders or
something comparable. Arms?
- I don't think so."
- We've even tried to locate the
notes of earlier researchers,
- hoping they would lead us to their
sources. One source most of
- ten cited (when anyone makes the
effort) is Mrs. Thomas
- Eldridge's newspaper articles on
the Moorman family published in
- one of the Atlanta newspapers
1930s. Mary Stewart located Mrs.
- Eldridge's daughter on Compuserve;
unfortunately the daughter
- doesn't have her mother's notes. I
Think HER source was Jesse
- Bryan and Mrs. Wirt Carrington,
both deceased long ago. He's the
- itinerant printer who spent some
time in the town where the
- Carrington's lived; they
supposedly exchanged data. None of
- their notes are known to have
survived, but we're still looking.
- Back in NOV someone on va-roots
supplied the following informa
- tion on Nansemond Co. VA: "It
became extinct when the City of
- Suffolk was incorporated. The old
boundary of the Upper parish
- roughly follows the South boundary
of current Isle of Wight Co.
- in southeast VA close to Norfolk.
Nansemond was the home to many
- VA Quakers when they were
persecuted by the Church of England.
- Unfortunately most of the early
records were destroyed during the
- Federal occupation of 1860-65."
- Some discussion went around in
early March about George Fox's sup-
- posed reference in his diary to
spending the night with MOORMANs
- at the edge of the Dismal Swamp in
1672. Bill Moorman found a
- "specific" reference in a chapter
titled, "The Religious Society
- of Friends and Campbell Co."
written by Lindley M. Winston. Mary
- Stewart quickly shot this one
down; it turns out Lindley Winston
- is her cousin and was simply
repeating the "story". In fact Mary
- found Fox's diary entries on the
"net". What he specifically
- wrote is [capital letters for
emphasis are mine LSS]:
- "Next day we had a great meeting
at Nancemum, of Friends and
- others...After the meeting, we
hastened toward Carolina; yet had
- several meetings by the
way...Another very good meeting we had at
- William Yarrow's, at Pagan
creek;...After this, our way to
- Carolina grew worse, being much of
it plashy, and pretty full of
- great bogs and swamps; so that we
were commonly wet to the knees,
- and lay abroad anight in the woods
by a fire; saving one of the
- nights we got TO A POOR HOUSE AT
SOMMERTOWN, and lay by the fire.
- The WOMAN OF THE HOUSE HAD A SENSE
OF GOD UPON HER. The report
- of our travel had reached thither,
and drawn some that lived
- beyond Sommertown to that house,
in expectation to have seen and
- heard us; but they missed us. Next
day, the twenty-first of the
- ninth month, having travelled hard
through the woods, and over
- many bogs and swamps, we reached
Bonner's creek; there we lay
- that night by the fire-side, the
WOMAN LENDING US A MAT to lie
- on."
- [We should "keep our eye out" for
possible diaries or journals
- kept by Fox's companions.
Otherwise, this is the ONLY known pos
- sible source for Fox staying with
Zachariah and Mary during his
- travels. LSS]
- In early MAR I tossed out a
"question of the week" -- Since the
- MOORMANs and Edward JOHNSON are
supposed to have been such
- zealous Quakers in England, why
didn't they settle a meeting in
- VA? And when they did, nearer
their residences? I based my ques-
- tion on Jay Worrall's _The
Friendly VAians: American's 1st
- Quakers_, (Iberian Press 1994)
page 84) which specifically says
- spring 1691 two missionaries went
"through the woods to Black
- Creek [in NKCo] where we had
appointed a meeting...none having
- been there before."
- Mary Stewart added her question of
WHY did Thomas Moorman and Ed
- ward Johnson baptize their
children in St. Peter's Parish when
- other Quakers in this period
refused to do so and were simply
- fined. She also pointed out that
the first mention of a MOORMAN
- in extant Quaker records is 1744
when "Charles and son, Thomas
- [were] chosen overseers of a
meeting lately settled in the upper
- part of Louisa Co." [Hinshaw, page
260, Cedar Creek] She
- pointed out they could have
attended the Henrico Meeting where
- other families closely associated
with them are found; but their
- names are not in Henrico records.
On the other hand, Mary wrote
- later that week: "[Since] Charles
& Thomas were chosen over
- seers, my *guess* is that they had
become Quakers at some earlier
- point and assumed a leadership
role in beginning this meeting.
- Going on with other "what about's":
Mary wrote in MAR "in the
- last few days I read that the
register of St. Peter's Parish
- begins in 1686...it might explain
why there are no records of
- children before 1686. I've often
wondered about that because it
- would make Thomas about 35 before
he married and had children --
- a good 12 to 15 years later than
most and highly unusual for the
- day. I can see at least two
scenarios: Thomas the son of Capt.
- Zach really did arrive 1670, was
probably in his late teens,
- married and had children soon
after. The children who were bap
- tized were either very late (their
mother would have been ap
- proaching 40 -- pretty old in
those days) or the product of a
- second marriage OR it's possible
that these are grandchildren of
- the first Thomas. I think the
grandchild idea is pretty far
- fetched but what happened during
that 16 year gap ???"
- I think I covered this in an
update, but it's worth repeating.
- Martha Wright wrote in early MAR:
"One of my friends...has done
- quite a lot of research in Quaker
records. She said that if a
- person's name appears in one of
the registers (birth, marriage or
- death) that person is a Quaker.
However, if the name appears
- among those signing that they had
witnessed a wedding, then the
- person may or may not be a
Quaker...Something else I learned is
- that about 1744 there was...'the
Great Awakening'. Many Anglican
- members and others left their
churches and became Quakers. That
- may explain why Christopher became
a Quaker."
- [Along this same line, I can offer
"proof" of a non-Quaker sign
- ing a Quaker marriage certificate.
Thomas Martin CLARK appears
- only once in Quaker records --
signing a marriage certificate at
- South River Monthly Meeting in
1795. He was NOT a Quaker for he
- and his wife were "closer kin"
than first cousins and neither
- were disowned / removed from
Quaker membership when they married
- DEC 1787 in Campbell Co. Also, he
owned several slaves when he
- died 1811 in Breckinridge Co. KY.
LSS]
- If anyone wants to check the
original Quaker records (e.g. Xpher
- and Elizabeth Clark's signature on
the marriage certicate) Sue
- Wright reported in FEB that VA
Quaker MM records are located at
- Swarthmore Library in PA with a
few at Haverford College, also in
- PA... Microfilm copies and
photostats of some records are at the
- Maryland State Archives and the VA
State Library.
- Additional questions not answered:
Has anyone tracked down or
- verified Elizabeth Micajah SIMPSON
as Thomas Moorman's wife?
- And now to Zachariah. His name
appears NO WHERE in VA records --
- and I'm not aware of its
appearance in Isle of Wight, England. I
- have copies of pages from two
CANDLER/CHANDLER genealogies,
- neither of which mention Mary and
Zachariah Moorman. Admittedly,
- that's not proof of anything since
she was a "daughter" and they
- are often ignored by writers. But
except for the recurring name
- "Zachariah" in some of the
MOORMAN/CLARK lines, I would swear
- this couple was "dreamed up" by
earlier researchers. Several of
- us have tried in vain to
corroborate ANY and EVERY SPECIFIC state-
- ment in the Moorman legend. It's
not just one or two, it's NONE
- of the statements can be
confirmed. And that is what really
- bothers me about the legend. [I'll
get off my soap box now.
- LSS]
- Moving on to the CANDLER family
although I've discouraged people
- from getting me, at least, into
them until we get the MOORMAN
- line more settled. Richard Hopper
in late MAR sent the follow
- ing info [my apologies for any
misspellings of the heraldry
- terms! LSS]: "CANDLER, once spelt
KAENDLER and CHANDLER; the
- surname seems to be of Saxon
origin. The armorial bearings of
- the family were -- Chequy Argent
and Giles on a Bvend Asble
- (Sable), Three Lions Passant Or,
And Their Variances: Chequy Ar
- gent and Azure, On a Bend
Engrailed Sable, Three Lions Passant
- Or. The Crest Was: A Pelican
Sable, In Her Piety, Vert.
- It seems that from these arms that
those granted to
- Zachariah MOORMAN were based for
some of their features, e.g. Che-
- quy Argent And Gules and
Engrailment. These CHANDLER Arms were
- borne until 1836 when Edward
CHANDLER, Esq., the last male descen-
- dant in Ireland married Janet
SEMPILL, Baroness SEMPILL, in the
- Scottish Peerage and by Royal
License assumed the surname of SEM
- PILL only and arms: Parted In
Terce, Per Fesse Engrailed, The
- Chief Per Pale Azure And Argent,
The Base Or, A Canton Gules, But
- The Moot: Ad Mortem Fidelis Was
Retained.
- Lt. Col. CANDLER of the family of
Essex and Northampton
- Counties, Eng. came to Ireland in
1648, while Oliver CROMWELL was
- Lord Lieutenant, as a Captain in
the Regiment commanded by Sir
- Hardress WALLER. He afterwards
won, by meritorious conduct,
- promotion to a Lt. Col. and was
personally invested by Cromwell
- with the Barony of Callan Castle
about 1653, located 6 miles from
- Kilkenny. It was defended by a
wall and three castles: Butler's
- Castle, Skerry Castle, and the
Great Castle. Its garrison fought
- bravely, but finally CROMWELL's
army stormed it and carried the
- Great Castle and put all its
defenders to the sword. Butler's
- Castle surrendered and the men
were spared, but Skerry fought
- desperately and refused to
surrender while the English were un
- able to make a break in the wall
they scalded the defenders to
- death. After 1894, during an
excavation for a building at Cal
- lan, a vast quantity of human
bones were discovered in a trench
- and were no doubt the remains of
the brave defenders of some two
- hundred years earlier. [Furnished
by Patricia Stanley]"
-
- In early March Richard also
forwarded a message from Anne B.
- Cropley of Sydney, Australia, a
native of Ireland. She gave all
- sorts of helpful LDS microfilm
numbers where the CANDLER family
- is found. I will skip these for
all deal with the 1700s and our
- interest in the family begins
mid-1600s. However, she also sug
- gests the following sources:
- _Manuscript Sources for the
History of Irish Civilisation_
- edited by Richard J. Hayes;
published by G. K. Hall & Co., Boston
- 1965. There are 22 volumes in
all... "well worth checking".
- Also, she suggests Antonia
Fraser's _Cromwell: Our Chief of
- Men_ published in 1973. She says
Edward Hyde, 1st Earl of Claren
- don is mentioned frequently here.
For more info on John VILLIERS
- and his widow, she suggests trying
Burke's _Landed Gentry of
- Ireland_, the 1912 edition which
has an entire subheading
- "Villiers-Stuart" under the name
of Cox of Castletown. If he's
- not in there, she suggests G. E.
Cockayne's peerage books under
- the combined name Villiers-Stuart.
Also she suggests checking
- this family in the above Hayes
book. Also, Burke's _Irish Family
- Records_ published 1960s.
- For those of us who want "more"
than just names, she offers
- a description of the town Callan,
Co. Kilkenny in H. D. Inglis, 2
- vols, (London 1834) _Journey
through Ireland during Spring, Sum
- mer and Autumn of 1834_. For a
history of the area 1827-1835
- she suggests _The Diary of
Humphrey O'Sullivan_, published 1980s,
- a translation of the Gaelic school
teacher's account of his life.
-
-
- NOTE: I may have been too quick to
dismiss CANDLER research.
- The very day I'm giving this file
"one last proof-read", snail
- mail brings six pages of
circumstantial evidence in the way of
- CLARK letters written 1764-1788
for Zachariah and Mary's marriage
- which Doug gleaned from a CANDLER
genealogy!!! I'll re-type and
- send to all as quickly as I can.
LSS
- --------------
- [This first is an attached e-mail
sent to Paul Phelps and then his reply
- which he cc'd to LSS who appended
to her file.]
- Doug's sketch has lots of
interesting new details on the move to NC, and I
- clearly need to compare notes with
him on my various CLARK, MOORMAN, and
- THOMAS connections there. I've
found a brother for my John THOMAS, but no
- father yet, and no connection back
to Culpeper Co. VA. His wife Molly
- CLARK turns out to be d/o Francis
CLARK Jr. of Louisa Co., who moved to NC
- in 1754, and his son Benjamin
THOMAS m. 1806 Anna MOORMAN, d/o that same
- Zachariah MOORMAN (1732-1788) and
Elizabeth JOHNSON.
- My only question on his facts is
about this wife of Zachariah MOORMAN.
- Doug has her as Elizabeth JOHNSON
d/o Capt. James and Lucy (Moorman)
- JOHNSON. My records show her as
d/o John and Lucretia (Massie) JOHNSON.
- Since you're probably the original
source of my information, perhaps you
- can shed some light.
- I do have a small addition on the
subject of William CANDLER (and
- Zachariah MOORMAN) during
Cromwell's campaign in Ireland. You'll recall
- that we have two versions of that
story, the simple and the elaborate.
- The simple:
- "William [Candler] was a
lieutenant in Cromwell's army and was
- granted estates in Ireland."
- -- SOURCES: Linda Starr
<lsstarr264@aol.com> cites:
- * O'Donnell, "Moorman of VA," in
Boddie, _Historical Southern
- Families_, vol. 4;
- * Virkus, _Compendium of American
Genealogies_;
- * Colonial Dames, _17th Century
Colonial Ancestors 1915-1975_.
- Or the elaborate, based apparently
on the Candler MS:
- "Lt. Col. Candler of the family of
Essex and Northampton Counties,
- England came to Ireland in 1648,
while Oliver Cromwell was Lord
- Lieutenant, as a Captain in the
Regiment commanded by Sir Hardress
- Waller. He afterwards won, by
meritorious conduct, promotion to
- Lieutenant Colonel and was
personally invested by Cromwell with the
- Barony of Callan Castle about
1653, located 6 miles from Kilkenny.
- It was defended by a wall and
three castles: Butler's Castle, Skerry
- Castle, and the Great Castle. Its
garrison fought bravely, but
- finally Cromwell's army stormed it
and carried the Great Castle and
- put all its defenders to the
sword. Butler's Castle surrendered and
- the men were spared, but Skerry
fought desperately and refused to
- surrender. While the English were
unable to make a break in the
- wall, they scalded the defenders
to death. About 1894, during an
- excavation for a building at
Callan, a vast quantity of human bones
- were discovered in a trench and
were not doubt the remains of the
- brave defenders of some 200 years
before."
- --- SOURCE: Patricia Stanley,
quoted by Richard Hopper
- <rwhopper@onr.com> email 5 Mar
1996
- Well, here's what I learned about
units and personnel of the Irish
- campaign from Sir Charles H. Firth
and Godfrey Davies, _The Regimental
- History of Cromwell's Army_
(Oxford, ENG: Clarendon Press, 1940], vol. 2.
- It confirms the general facts but
not the specific details of the above,
- and related information from the
Candler MS that Doug includes in his
- sketch:
- "Hardress Waller was a man of Kent
by birth . . . knighted by
- Charles I on 6 Jul 1629, and had
probably seen some service in one
- of the English regiments in
Holland or Germany. Settling in Ireland
- about 1630 he married an heiress
in county Limerick, lost his estate
- in the rebellion of 1641, and
became colonel of a regiment in Munster
- under Lord Inchiquin. . . . [He
commanded a regiment of foot in the
- New Model Army in England
1645-1649.] . . . Waller landed at Kinsale
- about the end of December 1649. .
. .
- "The part played by Waller's
regiment in the Irish war is not easy
- to trace. It was no doubt with him
at the siege of Limerick, and in
- his expedition into Kerry. . . .
- "Three companies of Waller's
regiment were disbanded in 1655, and
- were allotted land in county
Wexford. . . ." (pp. 442-446)
- * * *
- [There is no mention of William
Candler or Chandler in connection
- with Waller; however, the name
does appear in connection with the
- regiment of Robert Phayre or
Farr:]
- * * *
- "In April [1649]
Lieutenant-Colonel 'Farr' was ordered to conduct
- to the waterside a regiment formed
from the Kentish forces, and in
- May it appears as Colonel Phayre's
regiment. There is a list of it
- in the Clarke manuscripts. This
list . . . mentions Captains Thomas
- Chandler . . . William Candler . .
. adding the names of lieutenants
- and ensigns. . . . Phayre's
regiment accompanied Cromwell to Ireland
- and he was destined for employment
in Munster. When Cromwell heard
- of the revolt in Cork he sent
Phayre thither in a man-of-war, 'having
- along with him near five-hundred
foot . . . Phayre's services were
- more administrative than military.
. . . He was for many years the
- governor of Cork. . . . he was
friendly to the Quakers . . . It is
- said that Phayre finally became a
Muggletonian [a somewhat similar
- sect of the late 1600s] . . . and
is supposed to have been buried
- [1682] in a Quaker cemetery at
Cork." (pp. 655-657)
- * * *
- [Capt. Thomas Chandler is
mentioned again in connection with his
- earlier service with the regiment
of Peter Stubber, which was
- disbanded in Aug 1655 and settled
in Kilkenny and Upper Ossory, near
- the legendary Castle Callan.
However, the name of William Candler or
- Chandler appears nowhere else. Of
Capt. John Villiers, whose widow
- William Candler is said to have
married, there is the following:]
- * * *
- "The regiment [of horse of Michael
Jones] accompanied him to Ireland
- in June 1647 [two years before
Cromwell]. A muster at Dublin about
- May 1648 supplies the names of
Major John Villiers [and various
- captains with] a total of 81
officers and 491 troopers. . . .
- "After the capture of Drogheda,
Jones's regiment formed part of
- the brigade sent to take
possession of Dundalk and Newry, and marched
- under Venables as far as Belfast.
. . . Major Villiers was killed in
- Ireland." (p.599)
- * * *
- [There is no mention of Villiers's
connection with the Earl of
- Buckingham, who does not seem to
have come to Ireland in any event.
- Nor is there any mention of a
battle for the castles of Callan,
- Butler, or Skerry (Firth doesn't
go into the campaign in detail).
- Nor is there any mention of
Zachariah Moorman or any other Moorman.
- It might be interesting to have a
look at the "Clarke MS" and various
- documents in the Public Records
Office -- when the disbanded units
- learned that they could apply for
land instead of back pay, they
- promptly began leaving a copious
paper trail -- but that kind of
- research is beyond my resources.
Perhaps we need to add a British
- member to the Moorman-Net?]
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/mrmhdgpg.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1593
_______________, _______________, Isle of Wight, England (web
site; FTW; no sources available.).
- Death: __ ___ 1640
_______________, _______________, _______________, _______________
(web site; FTW; no sources available.).
- Marriage: __ ___ ____
_______________, Norwood Parish, Co. Middlesex, England (web site;
FTW; no sources available.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father:
- Mother:
__________________________________________________________________________
- Spouse:
Ida
BRADING
(web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Birth: _______________,
_______________, _______________, England (web site; FTW; no
sources available.).
- Name-Marr: __ ___ ____ MOORMAN(web
site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Death: __ ___ ____
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father:
- Mother:
__________________________________________________________________________
- One Known Child
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Zachariah
MOORMAN
(web site; FTW; no sources available.) (web site; FTW; no sources
available.) (web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Zachariah Moorman (1620- c. 1702) b. Isle of
Wight, Eng. d. Nansemond co., VA., probable son of Thomas Moorman
(ca. 1593-ca. 1640) who came to VA with London Co. in 1619 on the
Nova Bona. Zachariah m. Anne (or Mary) dau. of Lt. Col. William
Candler of Callan Castle at Belfast, Ire., was a captain in
English Army, and a Quaker. He was also armigerous. Sailed from
Southampton on Glasgow to Barbados, West Indiws in 1669 and then
after a stop in N.C. went to Virginia in 1670 with children:
- 1. Thomas m. Elizabeth (Clark?)
- 2. Sally Ann m. Micajah Clark
- 3. Charles (ca. 1668-1757) (Bro.
Ambrose Carroll, O.S.B. Moorman, Descendants of Zachariah
Moorman in the Male Line, The (Mount Angel Abbey, St.
Benedict, OR: author, 1966), pg. 3. Hereinafter cited as
Zachariah Moorman Descendants.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; The surname Moorman appears in England as early
as the fourtheenth century and is said to be Saxon in origin,
therefor it may have a common ancestor with the German family of
Mohrmann, whos members emigrated to English speacking countries
adopted the spelling of Moorman. It is also spelt Morman, Moreman,
Mooreman and Moormann. The meaning is obvious "man of the moor."
The family coat of arms as found on old seals in Virginia dating
from about 1750 are: "or, a cross engrailed chequy gules and
argent." That is: a gold field with an engrailed cross checkered
red and silver. The crest is: "A cubit hand proper, holding four
arrows argent, points downward." It has been said that it was
originally a hand in its proper colors holding four silver arrows
with the points upward, but after the founder of the American
family, Zachariah Moorman embraced Quakerism the peace loving
attitude of his new co-religionists prompted him to make the
change. The motto used by most Moormans and being the original
form is: "Esse Quam Videri," that is, "To be that which I seem,"
but some Ohio Moormans and their descendants have and do use: "Esse
Quam Video" to which they assign the same translation, but should
be correctly translated as : "To be that which I see."
- In 1670 Capt. Zachariah Moorman,
Gentleman, a Quaker, emigrated from England to Nansemond County,
Virginia, where members of that peculiar sect early found a
refuge, there came with him his three children, Charles, Thomas,
and Sally Ann.
- In the first half of the
eighteenth century a considerable number of Quakers purchased
lands in what is now Louisa and Caroline counties and established
meetings at Cesar Creek (not far from the Louisia boundary line)
in Hanover County and at Colansville in Caroline County, sometimes
called the Caroline Meeting. Among the most influential of these
Quakers was Charles Moorman, who some historians have claimed to
have been the son of Thomas, son of Zachariah who settled in New
Kent county, but it seems he was the son of Zachariah himself.
Charles settled near Green Springs, Louisa County and married
Elizabeth Reynolds who bore him five children. Zachariah's son
Thomas seems to hav edied in New Kent County, but his son, Andrew
went to what was then Anson County, North Carolina in 1850, with
his family.[This should be 1750 **map] Charles' land extended into
Albemarle County and Moormans River is named for him. Thomas,
Charles' oldest son moved with his family to Caroline County in
1746 and shortly before he died in 1766 in bedford (later
Campbell) County, becoming a member of South River Meeting, near
Lynch's Ferry (later Lynchburg). His wife's nephew, John Lynch,
founded the town (Moorman, Zachariah Moorman Descendants,
pg. 1.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; In 1670 Zachariah Moorman(1), a Quaker, emigrated
from the Isle of Wight to Nansemond County, Virginia, where
members of that peculiar sect early found a refuge. There came
with him his three children, Charles(2), Thomas(2), and Sally
Ann(2). In 1686 when Thomas' name makes its appearance in Virginia
records, he was living with is wife Elizabeth in New Kent County,
probably at Green Springs, about thirty miles above Jamestoen,
where there was a Quaker settlement. In that year his daughter
Mary(3) and three years later his son Andrew(2) were baptized in
St. Peter's Church, Episcopalian, New Kent County. In 1690 a third
child, Charles(2) was born at Green Springs ("Wm & Mary
Quarterly", "The Moorman Family of Virginia"; Paullin, Charles O.;
2nd series, Vol. 12, No. 3 (July 1932); pp. 177-180.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; The Moormans of South River Meeting trace their
descent from Zachariah Moorman, who was born in Isle of Wight,
England, in 1620. While yet in his teens he enlisted in the army
and became a captain under Oliver Cromwell. He followed Cromwell
through the Irish campaign, and after the conquest of that Island,
remainied for a time near Belfast. While here he met and married
the daughter of William Candler who was a lieutenant, also with
Cromwell. Zachariah later returned to his birthplace and one
family historian says, "Being a sympathizer with Charles I, he
became an enemy of Cromwell, for having the King beheaded, and was
exiled from the British Isles". However, I find that the dates do
not tally in this instance, as Cromwell had died in 1658 and the
Moormans did not leave England until the early part or 1669. The
other explanation of his exodus from England is more probable,
that is, he was fleeing from persecution as a Quaker. At any rate,
in 1669 he and his children, Thomas, Charles and Sally Anne (wofe
of Micajah Clark), set sail on the ship "Glasgow" from the port of
Sourhtamptonand a few weeks later dropped anchor at the Island of
Barbadoes in the West Indies. There is no record of his wife
having been with him, it may be that she had died before this
time. The Moormans were attended on this voyage by the entire
family of Michael Clark, in which there were six sons, and also by
David Terrell. Early the next year Zachariah Moorman, his three
children and his son-in-law, joined the emigrants who stopped at
the Island enroute to South Carolina. This group landed near
Charleston and established the first permanent colony in that
State. The Moormans and Michael Clark did not remain in South
Carolina but moved on that same year to Virginia and settled in
Nansemond County. Thomas, the son of Zacharian, was a vestryman in
the Episcopal Church in 1671 (Brown, Lynchburg's Pioneer
Quakers, p.60.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Zachariah Moorman of (1) b. circa 1620 Isle of
Wight, England, held the rank of Captain in the British Army. M.
circa 1646 Mary Elizabeth Candler, and settled circa 1660
Nansemond County, Virginia. Issue: Thomas b. circa 1647; Charles
b. circa 1648; and Sallie Ann b. circa 1650 (Tillman, Thomas
Moorman of the Isle of Wight, England, pg. 9.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Zachariah Moorman, the founder of the family in
Ameirca, was born in 1620 on the Isle of Wight, Hampshire,
England, where a branch of the family had lived since at least the
early part of thesixteenth century. In 1639, at the age of
nineteen, he joined the English army and advanced to the rank of
captain, in which capacity he served under Oliver Cromwell through
the Irish campaign, and after the conquest, remained for a time
near Belfast, where he married Ann Candler, the daughter of
William Candler, who served under Cromwell as a lieutenant. On
returning to his birthplace he soon found himself forced to
disagree with Cromwell's policies of government and resigned his
commission.
- About the time he left the army he
and his family disassociated themselves with the Church of England
and became members of the newly founded Religious Society of
Friends, commonly called Quakers, just then taking root in
England, under the leadership of George Fox (1624-1691).
- Between 1661 and 1697 over 13,000
of the members of this denomination were jailed in England, 198
transported as slaves and 338 died in prisons. Thes epersecutions
were under such pretexts as refusing to pay tithes, to swear or
remove the hat; for preaching in public places or traveling on the
Sabbath. Under such conditions Zachariah, perhaps his wife,
although she is not mentioned in colonial records, and his
children, Charles, Thomas, and Sally Ann, sailed from Southampton,
in1669, on the "Glasgow" and a few weeks later dropped anchor at
the Island of Barbados in the West Indies. The Moormans were
attended on this voyage by the entire family of MIchael Clark,
whose son, Micajah, married Sally Ann. Early the next year
Zacharia, his three children and son-in-law, joined the emigrants
who stopped at the island enroute to South Carolina. This group
landed near Charleston and established the firstpermanent colony
in that State. The Moormans and the Clarks however, did not
remain, but moved on that same year to Virginia, and settled in
Nansemond county. (Douglas Summers Brown: A Hist. of Lynchburg's
Pioneer Quakers and Their Meeting House) (Ambrose, Charles C.
Moorman Ancestors, p. 4.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________;
- ZACHIST
- [I'm taking liberty with this
latest report from Douglas Tucker
- by appending a couple paragraphs
from his letter of July 6, 1997
- to his enclosed report. This is an
update of CLNDRCHG.txt which
- circulated last year. I plan a
"MOORMAN Hodge-Podge" with more
- passages from this letter and
comments sent by others on several
- previous reports. I apologize for
not being on top of things
- this summer, but my "other life"
has kept me occupied. I hope
- things will get back to normal
late August/early September. As in
- other reports, the ideas are
Doug's; typos are mine. LSS]
- Zachariah MOORMAN and Mary
CANDLER:
- History Helps with Key Dates!
- by Douglas Tucker
- JUL 1997
- Looking back over several reports
on Thomas Moreman, the Warwick
- shire grocer who sailed to
Virginia on the Bona Nova in 1619, got
- me to thinking again about how
little we know about Zachariah and
- Mary (Candler) Moorman. What
particularly distresses me is that
- the dateline still being applied
to Zachariah Moorman and his
- children does not reflect the few
known and documented facts
- about this particular Moorman.
- Before preparing the attached
paper on Zachariah, I went to the
- DAR Library and the library of the
National Genealogical Associa-
- tion and reviewed accounts of the
MOORMAN family legend that have
- been reported over the last 150
years - including the versions
- reported by Johnson in _Ancestry
of William & John Johnson_, Col.
- Stephen Tillman (several versions
over a 40-year period),
- O'Donnell, as reported by Boddie
in _Historical Southern
- Families_, Coulter in _Some
Families of Revolutionary War
- Patriots,_, Burk in _History of VA
Quakers_, Eldrige in _The Moor-
- man Family_, the NSCD in its
_Seventeenth Century Colonial Ances-
- tors of Members of the National
Society of Colonial Dames_, vol.
- XVII, and the version presented in
the _Compendium of American
- Genealogies_, vol. VII.
- I wanted to refresh my
understanding of the "essence" of the MOOR-
- MAN Family Legend and to see if
any of the dates cited for
- Zachariah Moorman had sources
other than "oral histories" ap-
- parently first collected and
printed in the mid-19th century (no
- sources were cited for any
information about Zachariah Moorman).
- My instinct, after rereading many
different presentations of the
- Legend, remains that the basic
substance of the Legend is
- reasonably consistent across all
versions. However, the datelines
- vary a good deal and frequently
reflect a general ignorance of
- English history. I have focused on
the "historical context of
- Zachariah Moorman" in the attached
paper in order to refine and
- correct the key dates associated
with Zachariah Moorman and his
- children. [The actual report
follows. LSS]
- The calendar commonly offered for
Zachariah Moorman in various
- versions of the MOORMAN Family
Legend is roughly as follows:
- 1620 Birth of Zachariah, son of
Thomas Moorman of Isle
- of Wight, Hampshire [England]
- 1639 Zachariah joins the Army
- (A) Zachariah serves under
Cromwell in Ireland
- (B) Zachariah married Mary CANDLER
in Ireland
- (C) Zachariah and Mary reside in
Belfast, Ireland
- (D) Son Thomas is born in Ireland
- (E) Zachariah and/or Mary Moorman
join Quaker faith
- (F) Zachariah and Mary return to
Isle of Wight. Zachariah
- persuades older brother Thomas to
join the Quaker
- movement. Thomas serves as Quaker
missionary, first at
- Hulst, Holland and later Damme,
Germany where he
- settles and raises a family
- 1669 Zachariah and Mary Moorman
and family leave Southampton
- on the Glasgow bound for Barbados,
an intermediate
- stopover enroute to Virginia
- 1670 Moorman family arrives in
Virginia and settles at the
- Quaker refuge near Somerton,
Nansemond Co.
- English and Irish history can help
us pin approximate dates to
- items A through F above.
- (1) The Irish Rebellion began in
1649 and while hostilities
- ended about 1653, the English
Expeditionary Army did not begin to
- disband until March 1655. There
were three stages to the disband-
- ment. The first occurred in March
1655, the second in August 1655
- and the third in June 1656.
Therefore, if Zachariah Moorman
- served in Ireland, he was not free
to marry until after March
- 1655. (Junior Army officers could
not be married or marry while
- on active duty.) Might Zachariah
have served in Ireland before
- the Rebellion began in 1649? No
chance, as English and Irish
- military records show there were
no domestic English troops sta
- tioned in Ireland from 1620 until
August 1649. (The Anglo/Irish
- and Scots families living in
Ireland were responsible for raising
- their own troops.)
- (2) English regimental records
show that William CANDLER was a
- Captain in the Army as early as
1647 (see Firth and Davis'
- _Regimental History of Cromwell's
Army_, 1940) and that he served
- in Ireland under Sir Hardress
Waller from December 1649 through
- at least March 1655 when his unit
was demobilized and given land
- in-lieu-of-back-pay in County
Wexford. (see Prendergast, _The
- Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland,
1856_). Candler held the rank
- of Captain throughout the Irish
campaign but when he retired from
- the Army in 1655, he was cited for
"bravery in the field" and
- breveted to the rank of Lt.
Colonel and granted an estate at Bal-
- liknockan in Kings County, Ireland
(see Dr. William Petty's _1659
- Census of Ireland_). Therefore, in
late 1655, an unmarried Wil-
- liam Candler remained in Ireland,
recently retired from the Army
- with a nice Lt. Col's pension and
substantial Irish property.
- (3) In the Petty Census of Ireland
that was completed in early
- 1659, William CANDLER of
Balliknockan is referred to as an
- "esquire" and is shown as the head
of a household containing four
- "English persons". Dr. Petty's
charge was to firmly establish the
- English population of Ireland, and
his count is considered to
- have been exceedingly accurate and
complete. The King's County
- tabulation was taken before
August, 1657). The Petty Census
- tells us that not only did William
Candler retire from the Army
- with a Lt. Colonel's pension and
an Irish estate, but he had sub-
- sequently been granted the
hereditary title of Esquire. Since
- Candler certainly was not married
from 1647 through 1655 while he
- was in the Army, it seems likely
that his 1657 instant "family"
- probably included children from an
earlier marriage. (Household
- servants probably would have been
Irish, of which there were 22
- counted in Balliknockan.
- (4) According to members of the
CANDLER family (Charles W.
- Candler in particular) who have
expanded on the earlier family
- research of kin Allan Candler,
William Candler was born about
- 1610/12, possibly in London, of a
family that originally came
- from Norfolk. He married about
1634/35 and settled in Kent, pos-
- sibly his wife's home county. The
Candlers had several children
- but only two daughters survived
infancy. William's wife died
- during the English Civil War and
shortly thereafter, William
- joined Parliamentary forces
opposing the King. When William
- joined the Parliamentary Army, the
young Candler daughters were
- placed in the care of relatives,
but whether they were Candler's
- or his wife's relatives is
unclear. After the end of the Civil
- War, William Candler remained in
the Army and subsequently volun-
- teered for service in Ireland,
attracted by the promise of Irish
- land grants when the Rebellion was
put down. Once in Ireland, he
- remained for the rest of his life.
- William Candler died at his estate
at Callan, County Kilkenny
- about 1680. (This was the "Callan
Castle" property that was
- granted to Candler by Charles II
in 1670/71). His oldest son,
- Thomas Candler, born at
Balliknockan in 1663 by his second wife,
- Ann Villiers Candler, had already
acceded to his father's Esquire
- title at the time of his marriage
to Elizabeth Burrell in 1684.
- The other English members of the
William Candler household at Bal-
- liknockan in 1657 probably
included one or both of William's
- daughters, who by 1657 would have
been in their late teens or
- early twenties. Whether Mary
Candler had already married
- Zachariah Moorman by 1657 is
problematical. What is clear is that
- Zachariah and Mary could not have
been married in Ireland before
- Zachariah was demobilized sometime
after March 1655. Furthermore,
- the Candler girls could not have
been present in Ireland until
- the very end of 1655 at the
earliest because English civilians
- were banned from traveling to
Ireland until November 1655. There
- fore, it seems highly unlikely
that Zachariah Moorman could have
- married Mary Candler before 1656.
- (5) William Candler married the
widow Ann Villiers sometime be
- tween early 1661 and 1663. Ann's
first husband, John Villiers,
- 3rd Viscount Grandison of
Limerick, died sometime between Novem-
- ber 1660 when he is mentioned in
Irish muster records and March
- 1661 when his younger brother
George is referred to in Parliamen
- tary documents as the 4th Viscount
Grandison. William Candler and
- Ann Villiers were already married
in October, 1663 when they are
- cited by name in an appendix to
the 1663 Acts of Settlement en-
- titled "Names of Persons in the
Grants Under the Acts of Settle
- ment and Explanation" (_Records of
Ireland_). This proves nothing
- about Zachariah Moorman except
that his mother-in-law was not Ann
- Villiers Candler as some have
suggested.
- (6) When he was demobilized, it is
possible that Capt. Zachariah
- Moorman was granted confiscated
Irish land in the vicinity of Bel-
- fast, in the northern part of
Ireland some 125 miles from Bal-
- liknockan where William Candler
lived. However, the Petty Census
- does not show an English person
named Moorman living in the
- vicinity of Belfast. This may mean
that Zachariah Moorman may
- have refused to accept confiscated
Irish land or sold his
- property rights to others. I find
it difficult to believe that
- Moorman would volunteer to serve
in Ireland and then refuse to
- accept payment for his services.
However, there was much dissatis-
- faction with the confiscated lands
program instituted by Cromwell
- to pay his soldiers and many sold
off their land grants and
- returned to England as quickly as
they could.
- (7) In the late 1650s, Belfast was
the hotbed of Quaker evan-
- gelism in Ireland, and it could
have been there that Zachariah
- and Mary first came in contact
with the Quaker faith. In con-
- trast, Quaker influence on Isle of
Wight was minimal until the
- early 1660s.
- In addition to the above, we know
that several Quaker families
- were passengers aboard the three
vessel fleet (Carolina, Port
- Royal and the sloop Three Sisters)
which sailed in January 1680
- from Barbados to found a new
colony in South Carolina. (See
- _Official History of the State of
South Carolina_) The Quaker
- families were not part of the
colonizing party (many of whom were
- also Quakers) but rather were
emigrants headed for Virginia where
- the fleet was planning to resupply
before heading back to Bar-
- bados. A fierce storm separated
the fleet before it reached South
- Carolina and the vessel carrying
the Quaker families, the Three
- Sisters, sought refuge and repair
in Bermuda. The Quaker families
- were dropped off in Virginia
before the Three Sisters finally
- reached South Carolina on May 23,
1680. (There are no names as
- sociated with the Quaker families
that sailed aboard the Three
- Sisters, only mention that they
were dropped off at "the Nan
- semond River in Virginia" before
the Three Sisters reached South
- Carolina." I suggest the Moorman
family was aboard the Three
- Sisters and that the circumstances
of its voyage led to the rumor
- that the Moormans had been part of
the South Carolina colonizing
- party.) [Doug's report says 1680
in the above account, but I'm
- sure that's a typo and should read
1670 based on content. LSS]
- Revised Calendar for Zachariah
MOORMAN
- 1620 Birth of Zachariah, son of
Thomas Moorman of Isle of
- Wight, Hampshire
- 1630 Zachariah joins the Army
- 1649-1655 Zachariah serves under
Cromwell in Ireland
- 1656-1657 Zachariah marries Mary
CANDLER in Ireland
- after 1656 Zachariah and Mary
possibly reside in Belfast
- c1658 Son Thomas is born in
Ireland
- c1658 Zachariah and/or Mary
Moorman join Quaker faith
- before 1660 Zachariah and Mary
return to Isle of Wight. Zachariah
- persuades older brother Thomas to
join the Quaker
- movement. Thomas serves as Quaker
missionary, first
- at Hulst, Holland and later Damme,
Germany where he
- settles and raises a family.
- 1669 Zachariah and Mary Moorman
and family leave Southamp-
- ton on the Glasgow bound for
Barbados, an inter-
- mediate stopover enroute to
Virginia
- 1670 Moorman family arrives in
Virginia and settles at the
- Quaker refuge near Somerton,
Nansemond Co.
- [For those wanting more
information on the CANDLER family, I
- refer you to several previous
reports: the two part IRSHCNDR.txt
- and IRHCNDL2.txt are the most
detailed; CANDLER.txt,
- CNDLRVST.txt, DOUGCAND.txt, and
MRMHDGPG.txt. Don't let "txt"
- or "asc" following the file name
throw you: "asc" appears with
- individual files sent via e-mail
and "txt" with those files
- downloaded from my web page. Same
files, just different handling
- by cyberspace. LSS]
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/zachist.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1619
_______________, Hampshire, Isle of Wight, England (web site; FTW;
no sources available.).
- Son: circa __ ___ 1648 Charles
MOORMAN; _______________, _______________, _______________,
England.
- Daughter: circa __ ___ 1650 Sally
Ann MOORMAN; _______________, _______________, _______________,
England.
- Marriage: __ ___ 1656 Mary Ann
CANDLER (b. 1635, d. 1670), daughter of Lt. Col. William CANDLER
and Elizabeth Ann ANTHONY; _______________, _______________,
_______________, _______________; Some say circa 1646 (web site;
FTW; no sources available.)
- Son: __ ___ 1658 Thomas MOORMAN;
_______________, Isle of Wight, Hampshire Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Death: __ Jan 1670
_______________, Nanesmond, Suffolk Co., VA (web site; FTW; no
sources available.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- Family Group Sheet
- Subject:
Zachariah
MOORMAN
(web site; FTW; no sources available.) (web site; FTW; no sources
available.) (web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Zachariah Moorman (1620- c. 1702) b. Isle of
Wight, Eng. d. Nansemond co., VA., probable son of Thomas Moorman
(ca. 1593-ca. 1640) who came to VA with London Co. in 1619 on the
Nova Bona. Zachariah m. Anne (or Mary) dau. of Lt. Col. William
Candler of Callan Castle at Belfast, Ire., was a captain in
English Army, and a Quaker. He was also armigerous. Sailed from
Southampton on Glasgow to Barbados, West Indiws in 1669 and then
after a stop in N.C. went to Virginia in 1670 with children:
- 1. Thomas m. Elizabeth (Clark?)
- 2. Sally Ann m. Micajah Clark
- 3. Charles (ca. 1668-1757)
(Moorman, Zachariah Moorman Descendants, pg. 3.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; The surname Moorman appears in England as early
as the fourtheenth century and is said to be Saxon in origin,
therefor it may have a common ancestor with the German family of
Mohrmann, whos members emigrated to English speacking countries
adopted the spelling of Moorman. It is also spelt Morman, Moreman,
Mooreman and Moormann. The meaning is obvious "man of the moor."
The family coat of arms as found on old seals in Virginia dating
from about 1750 are: "or, a cross engrailed chequy gules and
argent." That is: a gold field with an engrailed cross checkered
red and silver. The crest is: "A cubit hand proper, holding four
arrows argent, points downward." It has been said that it was
originally a hand in its proper colors holding four silver arrows
with the points upward, but after the founder of the American
family, Zachariah Moorman embraced Quakerism the peace loving
attitude of his new co-religionists prompted him to make the
change. The motto used by most Moormans and being the original
form is: "Esse Quam Videri," that is, "To be that which I seem,"
but some Ohio Moormans and their descendants have and do use: "Esse
Quam Video" to which they assign the same translation, but should
be correctly translated as : "To be that which I see."
- In 1670 Capt. Zachariah Moorman,
Gentleman, a Quaker, emigrated from England to Nansemond County,
Virginia, where members of that peculiar sect early found a
refuge, there came with him his three children, Charles, Thomas,
and Sally Ann.
- In the first half of the
eighteenth century a considerable number of Quakers purchased
lands in what is now Louisa and Caroline counties and established
meetings at Cesar Creek (not far from the Louisia boundary line)
in Hanover County and at Colansville in Caroline County, sometimes
called the Caroline Meeting. Among the most influential of these
Quakers was Charles Moorman, who some historians have claimed to
have been the son of Thomas, son of Zachariah who settled in New
Kent county, but it seems he was the son of Zachariah himself.
Charles settled near Green Springs, Louisa County and married
Elizabeth Reynolds who bore him five children. Zachariah's son
Thomas seems to hav edied in New Kent County, but his son, Andrew
went to what was then Anson County, North Carolina in 1850, with
his family.[This should be 1750 **map] Charles' land extended into
Albemarle County and Moormans River is named for him. Thomas,
Charles' oldest son moved with his family to Caroline County in
1746 and shortly before he died in 1766 in bedford (later
Campbell) County, becoming a member of South River Meeting, near
Lynch's Ferry (later Lynchburg). His wife's nephew, John Lynch,
founded the town (Moorman, Zachariah Moorman Descendants,
pg. 1.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; In 1670 Zachariah Moorman(1), a Quaker, emigrated
from the Isle of Wight to Nansemond County, Virginia, where
members of that peculiar sect early found a refuge. There came
with him his three children, Charles(2), Thomas(2), and Sally
Ann(2). In 1686 when Thomas' name makes its appearance in Virginia
records, he was living with is wife Elizabeth in New Kent County,
probably at Green Springs, about thirty miles above Jamestoen,
where there was a Quaker settlement. In that year his daughter
Mary(3) and three years later his son Andrew(2) were baptized in
St. Peter's Church, Episcopalian, New Kent County. In 1690 a third
child, Charles(2) was born at Green Springs ("Wm & Mary
Quarterly", "The Moorman Family of Virginia"; Paullin, Charles O.;
2nd series, Vol. 12, No. 3 (July 1932); pp. 177-180.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; The Moormans of South River Meeting trace their
descent from Zachariah Moorman, who was born in Isle of Wight,
England, in 1620. While yet in his teens he enlisted in the army
and became a captain under Oliver Cromwell. He followed Cromwell
through the Irish campaign, and after the conquest of that Island,
remainied for a time near Belfast. While here he met and married
the daughter of William Candler who was a lieutenant, also with
Cromwell. Zachariah later returned to his birthplace and one
family historian says, "Being a sympathizer with Charles I, he
became an enemy of Cromwell, for having the King beheaded, and was
exiled from the British Isles". However, I find that the dates do
not tally in this instance, as Cromwell had died in 1658 and the
Moormans did not leave England until the early part or 1669. The
other explanation of his exodus from England is more probable,
that is, he was fleeing from persecution as a Quaker. At any rate,
in 1669 he and his children, Thomas, Charles and Sally Anne (wofe
of Micajah Clark), set sail on the ship "Glasgow" from the port of
Sourhtamptonand a few weeks later dropped anchor at the Island of
Barbadoes in the West Indies. There is no record of his wife
having been with him, it may be that she had died before this
time. The Moormans were attended on this voyage by the entire
family of Michael Clark, in which there were six sons, and also by
David Terrell. Early the next year Zachariah Moorman, his three
children and his son-in-law, joined the emigrants who stopped at
the Island enroute to South Carolina. This group landed near
Charleston and established the first permanent colony in that
State. The Moormans and Michael Clark did not remain in South
Carolina but moved on that same year to Virginia and settled in
Nansemond County. Thomas, the son of Zacharian, was a vestryman in
the Episcopal Church in 1671 (Brown, Lynchburg's Pioneer
Quakers, p.60.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Zachariah Moorman of (1) b. circa 1620 Isle of
Wight, England, held the rank of Captain in the British Army. M.
circa 1646 Mary Elizabeth Candler, and settled circa 1660
Nansemond County, Virginia. Issue: Thomas b. circa 1647; Charles
b. circa 1648; and Sallie Ann b. circa 1650 (Tillman, Thomas
Moorman of the Isle of Wight, England, pg. 9.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Zachariah Moorman, the founder of the family in
Ameirca, was born in 1620 on the Isle of Wight, Hampshire,
England, where a branch of the family had lived since at least the
early part of thesixteenth century. In 1639, at the age of
nineteen, he joined the English army and advanced to the rank of
captain, in which capacity he served under Oliver Cromwell through
the Irish campaign, and after the conquest, remained for a time
near Belfast, where he married Ann Candler, the daughter of
William Candler, who served under Cromwell as a lieutenant. On
returning to his birthplace he soon found himself forced to
disagree with Cromwell's policies of government and resigned his
commission.
- About the time he left the army he
and his family disassociated themselves with the Church of England
and became members of the newly founded Religious Society of
Friends, commonly called Quakers, just then taking root in
England, under the leadership of George Fox (1624-1691).
- Between 1661 and 1697 over 13,000
of the members of this denomination were jailed in England, 198
transported as slaves and 338 died in prisons. Thes epersecutions
were under such pretexts as refusing to pay tithes, to swear or
remove the hat; for preaching in public places or traveling on the
Sabbath. Under such conditions Zachariah, perhaps his wife,
although she is not mentioned in colonial records, and his
children, Charles, Thomas, and Sally Ann, sailed from Southampton,
in1669, on the "Glasgow" and a few weeks later dropped anchor at
the Island of Barbados in the West Indies. The Moormans were
attended on this voyage by the entire family of MIchael Clark,
whose son, Micajah, married Sally Ann. Early the next year
Zacharia, his three children and son-in-law, joined the emigrants
who stopped at the island enroute to South Carolina. This group
landed near Charleston and established the firstpermanent colony
in that State. The Moormans and the Clarks however, did not
remain, but moved on that same year to Virginia, and settled in
Nansemond county. (Douglas Summers Brown: A Hist. of Lynchburg's
Pioneer Quakers and Their Meeting House) (Ambrose, Charles C.
Moorman Ancestors, p. 4.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________;
- ZACHIST
- [I'm taking liberty with this
latest report from Douglas Tucker
- by appending a couple paragraphs
from his letter of July 6, 1997
- to his enclosed report. This is an
update of CLNDRCHG.txt which
- circulated last year. I plan a
"MOORMAN Hodge-Podge" with more
- passages from this letter and
comments sent by others on several
- previous reports. I apologize for
not being on top of things
- this summer, but my "other life"
has kept me occupied. I hope
- things will get back to normal
late August/early September. As in
- other reports, the ideas are
Doug's; typos are mine. LSS]
- Zachariah MOORMAN and Mary
CANDLER:
- History Helps with Key Dates!
- by Douglas Tucker
- JUL 1997
- Looking back over several reports
on Thomas Moreman, the Warwick
- shire grocer who sailed to
Virginia on the Bona Nova in 1619, got
- me to thinking again about how
little we know about Zachariah and
- Mary (Candler) Moorman. What
particularly distresses me is that
- the dateline still being applied
to Zachariah Moorman and his
- children does not reflect the few
known and documented facts
- about this particular Moorman.
- Before preparing the attached
paper on Zachariah, I went to the
- DAR Library and the library of the
National Genealogical Associa-
- tion and reviewed accounts of the
MOORMAN family legend that have
- been reported over the last 150
years - including the versions
- reported by Johnson in _Ancestry
of William & John Johnson_, Col.
- Stephen Tillman (several versions
over a 40-year period),
- O'Donnell, as reported by Boddie
in _Historical Southern
- Families_, Coulter in _Some
Families of Revolutionary War
- Patriots,_, Burk in _History of VA
Quakers_, Eldrige in _The Moor-
- man Family_, the NSCD in its
_Seventeenth Century Colonial Ances-
- tors of Members of the National
Society of Colonial Dames_, vol.
- XVII, and the version presented in
the _Compendium of American
- Genealogies_, vol. VII.
- I wanted to refresh my
understanding of the "essence" of the MOOR-
- MAN Family Legend and to see if
any of the dates cited for
- Zachariah Moorman had sources
other than "oral histories" ap-
- parently first collected and
printed in the mid-19th century (no
- sources were cited for any
information about Zachariah Moorman).
- My instinct, after rereading many
different presentations of the
- Legend, remains that the basic
substance of the Legend is
- reasonably consistent across all
versions. However, the datelines
- vary a good deal and frequently
reflect a general ignorance of
- English history. I have focused on
the "historical context of
- Zachariah Moorman" in the attached
paper in order to refine and
- correct the key dates associated
with Zachariah Moorman and his
- children. [The actual report
follows. LSS]
- The calendar commonly offered for
Zachariah Moorman in various
- versions of the MOORMAN Family
Legend is roughly as follows:
- 1620 Birth of Zachariah, son of
Thomas Moorman of Isle
- of Wight, Hampshire [England]
- 1639 Zachariah joins the Army
- (A) Zachariah serves under
Cromwell in Ireland
- (B) Zachariah married Mary CANDLER
in Ireland
- (C) Zachariah and Mary reside in
Belfast, Ireland
- (D) Son Thomas is born in Ireland
- (E) Zachariah and/or Mary Moorman
join Quaker faith
- (F) Zachariah and Mary return to
Isle of Wight. Zachariah
- persuades older brother Thomas to
join the Quaker
- movement. Thomas serves as Quaker
missionary, first at
- Hulst, Holland and later Damme,
Germany where he
- settles and raises a family
- 1669 Zachariah and Mary Moorman
and family leave Southampton
- on the Glasgow bound for Barbados,
an intermediate
- stopover enroute to Virginia
- 1670 Moorman family arrives in
Virginia and settles at the
- Quaker refuge near Somerton,
Nansemond Co.
- English and Irish history can help
us pin approximate dates to
- items A through F above.
- (1) The Irish Rebellion began in
1649 and while hostilities
- ended about 1653, the English
Expeditionary Army did not begin to
- disband until March 1655. There
were three stages to the disband-
- ment. The first occurred in March
1655, the second in August 1655
- and the third in June 1656.
Therefore, if Zachariah Moorman
- served in Ireland, he was not free
to marry until after March
- 1655. (Junior Army officers could
not be married or marry while
- on active duty.) Might Zachariah
have served in Ireland before
- the Rebellion began in 1649? No
chance, as English and Irish
- military records show there were
no domestic English troops sta
- tioned in Ireland from 1620 until
August 1649. (The Anglo/Irish
- and Scots families living in
Ireland were responsible for raising
- their own troops.)
- (2) English regimental records
show that William CANDLER was a
- Captain in the Army as early as
1647 (see Firth and Davis'
- _Regimental History of Cromwell's
Army_, 1940) and that he served
- in Ireland under Sir Hardress
Waller from December 1649 through
- at least March 1655 when his unit
was demobilized and given land
- in-lieu-of-back-pay in County
Wexford. (see Prendergast, _The
- Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland,
1856_). Candler held the rank
- of Captain throughout the Irish
campaign but when he retired from
- the Army in 1655, he was cited for
"bravery in the field" and
- breveted to the rank of Lt.
Colonel and granted an estate at Bal-
- liknockan in Kings County, Ireland
(see Dr. William Petty's _1659
- Census of Ireland_). Therefore, in
late 1655, an unmarried Wil-
- liam Candler remained in Ireland,
recently retired from the Army
- with a nice Lt. Col's pension and
substantial Irish property.
- (3) In the Petty Census of Ireland
that was completed in early
- 1659, William CANDLER of
Balliknockan is referred to as an
- "esquire" and is shown as the head
of a household containing four
- "English persons". Dr. Petty's
charge was to firmly establish the
- English population of Ireland, and
his count is considered to
- have been exceedingly accurate and
complete. The King's County
- tabulation was taken before
August, 1657). The Petty Census
- tells us that not only did William
Candler retire from the Army
- with a Lt. Colonel's pension and
an Irish estate, but he had sub-
- sequently been granted the
hereditary title of Esquire. Since
- Candler certainly was not married
from 1647 through 1655 while he
- was in the Army, it seems likely
that his 1657 instant "family"
- probably included children from an
earlier marriage. (Household
- servants probably would have been
Irish, of which there were 22
- counted in Balliknockan.
- (4) According to members of the
CANDLER family (Charles W.
- Candler in particular) who have
expanded on the earlier family
- research of kin Allan Candler,
William Candler was born about
- 1610/12, possibly in London, of a
family that originally came
- from Norfolk. He married about
1634/35 and settled in Kent, pos-
- sibly his wife's home county. The
Candlers had several children
- but only two daughters survived
infancy. William's wife died
- during the English Civil War and
shortly thereafter, William
- joined Parliamentary forces
opposing the King. When William
- joined the Parliamentary Army, the
young Candler daughters were
- placed in the care of relatives,
but whether they were Candler's
- or his wife's relatives is
unclear. After the end of the Civil
- War, William Candler remained in
the Army and subsequently volun-
- teered for service in Ireland,
attracted by the promise of Irish
- land grants when the Rebellion was
put down. Once in Ireland, he
- remained for the rest of his life.
- William Candler died at his estate
at Callan, County Kilkenny
- about 1680. (This was the "Callan
Castle" property that was
- granted to Candler by Charles II
in 1670/71). His oldest son,
- Thomas Candler, born at
Balliknockan in 1663 by his second wife,
- Ann Villiers Candler, had already
acceded to his father's Esquire
- title at the time of his marriage
to Elizabeth Burrell in 1684.
- The other English members of the
William Candler household at Bal-
- liknockan in 1657 probably
included one or both of William's
- daughters, who by 1657 would have
been in their late teens or
- early twenties. Whether Mary
Candler had already married
- Zachariah Moorman by 1657 is
problematical. What is clear is that
- Zachariah and Mary could not have
been married in Ireland before
- Zachariah was demobilized sometime
after March 1655. Furthermore,
- the Candler girls could not have
been present in Ireland until
- the very end of 1655 at the
earliest because English civilians
- were banned from traveling to
Ireland until November 1655. There
- fore, it seems highly unlikely
that Zachariah Moorman could have
- married Mary Candler before 1656.
- (5) William Candler married the
widow Ann Villiers sometime be
- tween early 1661 and 1663. Ann's
first husband, John Villiers,
- 3rd Viscount Grandison of
Limerick, died sometime between Novem-
- ber 1660 when he is mentioned in
Irish muster records and March
- 1661 when his younger brother
George is referred to in Parliamen
- tary documents as the 4th Viscount
Grandison. William Candler and
- Ann Villiers were already married
in October, 1663 when they are
- cited by name in an appendix to
the 1663 Acts of Settlement en-
- titled "Names of Persons in the
Grants Under the Acts of Settle
- ment and Explanation" (_Records of
Ireland_). This proves nothing
- about Zachariah Moorman except
that his mother-in-law was not Ann
- Villiers Candler as some have
suggested.
- (6) When he was demobilized, it is
possible that Capt. Zachariah
- Moorman was granted confiscated
Irish land in the vicinity of Bel-
- fast, in the northern part of
Ireland some 125 miles from Bal-
- liknockan where William Candler
lived. However, the Petty Census
- does not show an English person
named Moorman living in the
- vicinity of Belfast. This may mean
that Zachariah Moorman may
- have refused to accept confiscated
Irish land or sold his
- property rights to others. I find
it difficult to believe that
- Moorman would volunteer to serve
in Ireland and then refuse to
- accept payment for his services.
However, there was much dissatis-
- faction with the confiscated lands
program instituted by Cromwell
- to pay his soldiers and many sold
off their land grants and
- returned to England as quickly as
they could.
- (7) In the late 1650s, Belfast was
the hotbed of Quaker evan-
- gelism in Ireland, and it could
have been there that Zachariah
- and Mary first came in contact
with the Quaker faith. In con-
- trast, Quaker influence on Isle of
Wight was minimal until the
- early 1660s.
- In addition to the above, we know
that several Quaker families
- were passengers aboard the three
vessel fleet (Carolina, Port
- Royal and the sloop Three Sisters)
which sailed in January 1680
- from Barbados to found a new
colony in South Carolina. (See
- _Official History of the State of
South Carolina_) The Quaker
- families were not part of the
colonizing party (many of whom were
- also Quakers) but rather were
emigrants headed for Virginia where
- the fleet was planning to resupply
before heading back to Bar-
- bados. A fierce storm separated
the fleet before it reached South
- Carolina and the vessel carrying
the Quaker families, the Three
- Sisters, sought refuge and repair
in Bermuda. The Quaker families
- were dropped off in Virginia
before the Three Sisters finally
- reached South Carolina on May 23,
1680. (There are no names as
- sociated with the Quaker families
that sailed aboard the Three
- Sisters, only mention that they
were dropped off at "the Nan
- semond River in Virginia" before
the Three Sisters reached South
- Carolina." I suggest the Moorman
family was aboard the Three
- Sisters and that the circumstances
of its voyage led to the rumor
- that the Moormans had been part of
the South Carolina colonizing
- party.) [Doug's report says 1680
in the above account, but I'm
- sure that's a typo and should read
1670 based on content. LSS]
- Revised Calendar for Zachariah
MOORMAN
- 1620 Birth of Zachariah, son of
Thomas Moorman of Isle of
- Wight, Hampshire
- 1630 Zachariah joins the Army
- 1649-1655 Zachariah serves under
Cromwell in Ireland
- 1656-1657 Zachariah marries Mary
CANDLER in Ireland
- after 1656 Zachariah and Mary
possibly reside in Belfast
- c1658 Son Thomas is born in
Ireland
- c1658 Zachariah and/or Mary
Moorman join Quaker faith
- before 1660 Zachariah and Mary
return to Isle of Wight. Zachariah
- persuades older brother Thomas to
join the Quaker
- movement. Thomas serves as Quaker
missionary, first
- at Hulst, Holland and later Damme,
Germany where he
- settles and raises a family.
- 1669 Zachariah and Mary Moorman
and family leave Southamp-
- ton on the Glasgow bound for
Barbados, an inter-
- mediate stopover enroute to
Virginia
- 1670 Moorman family arrives in
Virginia and settles at the
- Quaker refuge near Somerton,
Nansemond Co.
- [For those wanting more
information on the CANDLER family, I
- refer you to several previous
reports: the two part IRSHCNDR.txt
- and IRHCNDL2.txt are the most
detailed; CANDLER.txt,
- CNDLRVST.txt, DOUGCAND.txt, and
MRMHDGPG.txt. Don't let "txt"
- or "asc" following the file name
throw you: "asc" appears with
- individual files sent via e-mail
and "txt" with those files
- downloaded from my web page. Same
files, just different handling
- by cyberspace. LSS]
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/zachist.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1619
_______________, Hampshire, Isle of Wight, England (web site; FTW;
no sources available.).
- Marriage: __ ___ 1656
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Some say circa 1646 (web site; FTW; no sources
available.)
- Death: __ Jan 1670
_______________, Nanesmond, Suffolk Co., VA (web site; FTW; no
sources available.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father: Thomas MOORMAN (b. 1593, d. 1640)
- Mother: Ida BRADING
__________________________________________________________________________
- Spouse:
Mary Ann
CANDLER
(web site; FTW; no sources available.) (web site; FTW; no sources
available.) (web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Possible Calendar Changes Re: Zachariah MOORMAN
and Mary CANDLER by Douglas Tucker JUN 1996 [This, waiting for me
when we returned from vacation, seems like a good place to
re-start the CLARK/MOORMAN round robin. To help the newest
members: Zachariah and Mary are thought to be the parents of the
VA MOORMANs who arrived late 17th century; some descendants
migrated to North Carolina and points south. In all honesty, we
haven't dealt with the earliest MOORMAN (and his pos sible
descendants) who was in VA c1620s. The content below is Doug's
work; capitalization of surnames and typos are mine. LSS] I want
to suggest some calendar modifications which I think add to the
credibility of the central elements of the family legend. All of
the following items are offered for consideration and com ment. 1.
Lt. Col. William CANDLER of Callan, Ireland probably was the
William CANDLER who was born in 25 SEP 1608 in Ixworth, Suffolk,
the son of William (b.1582) and grandson of Ralph and Ann CANDLER,
all of Ixworth. (Some have reported an 1580 birth date for our
William CANDLER which is clearly incorrect.) Several CANDLER
family histories acknowledge the Ralph-William-William
descendancy. They also note that William was a Captain in the
English Army as late as 1643 and a Major as late as 1652. Don't
know as how there were many 63 year-old Captains in the English
forces, or 70 year-old Majors! As information, Newcastle-upon
Tyne, which has been reported as the hometown of William Candler,
was a royal garrison town, meaning that the soldiers stationed
there were in the employ of the crown and not members of the lo
cal county militia. The royal garrison at Newcastle-upon-Tyne was
one of England's largest and was tasked with keeping an eye on the
bothersome Scots who occasionally raided into Northumber land.
(Does anyone know anything about records of the royal gar risons
during the early 17th century? Also, records of the Nor
thumberland Militia for the same period?) I checked on the
structure and traditions of the English Army during the 17th
century. Until 1645, the English Army was made up largely of
County militias, each with a relatively small, permanent officer
corps whose job was to train and command the local enlisted
militia who spent relatively short periods in serv- ice. This
would give the counties a reserve force of trained sol- diers that
could be offered to the crown in times of national emergency. In
effect, by the beginning of the 17th century counties had replaced
medieval lords as the primary provider of troops to the crown.
Some of the more dedicated militia officers offered themselves to
foreign armies as mercenaries, with the overt approval of London
because these experienced officers could be called on to serve
England in times of peril. The Crown main tained royal garrisons
at several key spots in the country, in cluding London, but the
number of "Royal" troops was never great because of cost. In 1645,
during the Civil War, Oliver Cromwell persuaded Parlia ment to
authorize maintenance of a standing Army of 22,000 funded entirely
by Parliament. The officer corps of Cromwell's "New Or der Army"
was small and well-paid, and officers were officially granted the
title "Gentlemen". Officers were appointed by the commanding
general but with the explicit approval of Parliament. There were
only six officer ranks (Lieutenant, Captain, Major, Lt. Colonel,
Colonel and General) and the entire New Order Army had only 27
officers with the rank of Colonel and above. Cromwell's goal was
to create a full-time, professional officer corps loyal to the
central government and ready to participate in conflicts whether
in the British Isles or on the Continent. Generally speaking,
military service remained for the relatively young and most Army
officers were retired, or dead, by age 40. Entry age for
Cromwell's Army was 16 years of age, 17 for of ficers, and rank
advancement was one step every seven-to-ten years for the lower
three ranks. As had long been English tradition, officer rank in
the New Order Army was generally restricted to the aristocratic
and landed gentry class. One study of Cromwell's Army, circa 1650,
found only 1 out of 30 Army officers came from the commoner class.
Later, the ratio widened, and later yet, officer rank had to be
"purchased". It is well to remember this when we assess the
parentage of Zachariah MOORMAN. The chance of Capt. Zachariah
MOORMAN being the son of a man who served as an indentured seaman
on the Bona Nova in 1619 seems extremely remote. 2. The widowed
Anne (Vavasour?) Villiers probably did not marry William CANDLER
until after 1632 and perhaps as late as 1634. Capt. John Villiers,
Ann's first husband was reportedly from Hartley, Northampton, but
I have been unable to locate any record of him. Anne VAVASOUR was
reportedly from Rushton (Rushden), Nor thampton but no sign of her
either in English church records. However, if William CANDLER
joined the Army at age 17, the ear liest possible age for an
officer, he would have joined in 1625 and would not have made
Captain until about 1632 at age 24. (English Army tradition was
seven years from Lt. to Capt. I'm sure it could have occurred
quicker, but let's stick with the nor- mal situation for sake of
argument.) If he married the widow of a Captain, chances are that
he, too, was a Captain. English society was extremely class
conscious -- the Army was both class and rank conscious. Under
this scenario, William CANDLER prob ably did not marry the widow
Ann Villiers until 1632 at the ear liest. Regardless of the
marriage date, it seems unlikely that daughter Mary could have
been born in 1626 as some have reported. Did Wil- liam, perhaps,
have an earlier wife who could have been Mary's mother? Not
likely, given William's birth date and low rank status in the
Army. (Those that have suggested Elizabeth ANTHONY as William's
first wife are confusing William Candler of the early 17th century
England/Ireland with Daniel Candler's son, William, who was born
in 1736 and who married Elizabeth ANTHONY, daughter of Joseph An
thony and Elizabeth CLARK in 1761. This later William Candler
moved to Georgia and fought with distinction (with the rank of
Colonel) in the Revolutionary War. He and his wife are well docu-
mented in VA and GA.) 3. William and Ann CANDLER had four children
who are known to have lived to adulthood. Their first two children
were daughters named Annabella and Mary. The last two were sons:
Thomas born in 1637 and John born in 1641. Mary Candler's birth
date would likely have been between 1632 and 1636 or 1638 or
later. My "guess" is that Annabella was the eldest child (named
after her mother?) and Mary was the second-born. I would place
Mary's birth date as 1634-36, some ten years later than earlier
researchers have reported. 4. The Irish Rebellion was not put down
until 1651. It was a particularly nasty affair and Ireland was in
shambles at the end. The CANDLER family histories state that
William Candler's family did not arrive in Ireland from
Northumberland until sometime after April 1653, after William had
been awarded the Callan es tates by Parliament. Annaella Candler
was married to Jonathan COPE at Callan in 1654. If Mary Candler
married Zachariah MOOR MAN in Ireland, she probably did so after
1653 and the marriage was more likely at Callan than at Belfast as
previously reported. The CANDLER family histories say only that
one of William Candler's daughters "married a Capt. Moorman,
formerly of Major Candler's troop". It is possible that Zachariah
and Mary may have lived in Belfast after they married. (By the
way, the term "troop" refers to cavalry which rquired members to
provide their own horse and horse upkeep. Another reason why
Zachariah Moorman does not fit as the son of Thomas Moreman of the
Bona Nova.) Zachariah and Mary Moorman's first surviving child was
Thomas, born in 1658. This, plus the 1653 date of the Candler
family's arrival in Ireland, suggest that Zachariah and Mary wed
between 1653 and 1657, and not in 1646 as some have reported. 5.
In the late 1650's, many officers in the New Order Army be came
Quakers. Their new faith apparently did not conflict with their
Army duties until January 1661 when Fox made pacifism part of the
Quaker doctrine. Well-known Quakers like James Nayler, William
Duesbury, Richard Hubberthone, John Whitehead, Edward Billing,
John Cook, Thomas Symonds and George Fox Jr. were all field
officers in Cromwell's new Order Army. All served in Ireland, and
all became Quakers after the end of the Irish campa ing in 1651.
All were still in the Army in 1661 but many resigned shortly
thereafter. (Thomas Wright, _A History of Quakers in Ireland_,
1811). The Moorman family legend suggests that Zachariah resigned
his commission in the early 1650's due to differences with
Cromwell's policies after he became military dictator. I have
speculated that his Quaker faith may have had more to do with his
Army resig- nation than differences with Cromwell's policies.
However, his tory tells us that Cromwell was personally quite
tolerant of the Quaker faith and made no move to purge the Army of
Quakers. Crom- well died in 1658 and Charles II was restored to
the crown in 1660. Fox's pacifism decree in 1661 was in direct
response to changes that were occuring in London where religious
tolerance was again wearing thin. So when did Zachariah Moorman
leave the Army? Don't really know, but if his Quaker faith was the
reason, he probably didn't resign his commission until after 1661.
6. The MOORMAN clan on the Isle of Wight in the late 16th and
early 17th centuries appears to have been small and geographi
cally isolated, numbering perhaps three or four families located
in the parishes of Brading, Northwood, Calbourne. There were no
Moorman families in any other part of Hampshire or in any of the
surrounding counties (Sussex, Surrey, Berkshire, Wiltshire,
Dorset). The closest surname to Moorman was a MARMAN clan lo cated
in Sussex and Surrey. There were no families with the CANDLER
surname in Hampshire or the Isle of Wight or any of the
immediately surrounding counties. NONE! Something like Army
service would have been necessary for Zachariah Moorman of the
Isle of Wight to link-up with a member of the CANDLER of
Northumberland and Callan, Ireland. To recap, I think some of the
dates surrounding the Moorman/Cand ler relationships are about a
decade too early. Mary Candler probably was born nearer to 1636
than to 1626. She and Zachariah MOORMAN proably were married in
the mid-1650's and not in 1646. This also points to the
possibility that Zachariah Moorman was born later than the 1620
date commonly cited for his birth. He was a Captain in rank when
he married Mary Candler. Using the normal rate of rank
advancement, his age in 1655 could have ranged from roughly 26 to
33, placing his birth date between 1622-1629. Another factor to
consider is that rank advancement during wartime was sometimes
faster than during peacetime and the Civil War in Ireland had just
ended. We need more to go on before we change Zachariah's birth
date, but I think the chances are good that it was closer to 1630
than to 1620. I would be interested to hear what others think
about this alter native calendar of events. Are there other bits
and pieces of facts out there which support or refute the revised
calendar? One question I have given some thought to is "How did
the earlier dates get such wide currency?" Don't know the answer,
but my suspicion is that the early dates are related to the notion
that Sally Ann MOORMAN and Micajah CLARK were already married when
the Moormans and Clarks left for Barbadoes in 1669. (Micajah
Clark's birth date has been reported as early as 1646, but it
seems far more likely that he was born in 1655/56.) (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/clndrchg.txt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1635
_______________, Hampshire, Isle of Wight, England (web site; FTW;
no sources available.).
- Name-Marr: __ ___ 1656 MOORMAN(web
site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Death: __ ___ 1670
_______________, _______________, _______________, VA (web site;
FTW; no sources available.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
- Father: Lt. Col. William CANDLER (b. 1608,
)
- Mother: Elizabeth Ann ANTHONY
__________________________________________________________________________
- Three Known Children
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Charles
MOORMAN
- Marriage 1: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Some sources say that this is the Charles Moorman
that married Elizabeth Reynolds circa 1704 and give no indication
of whether or not he had a first wife. These same sources also
have him dying in 1757!
- It if very doubtful if this is the
Charles that Elizabeth married. He would have been over 100 when
he died and 50 or more when married. The Charles in question is
more likely brother Thomas' eldest son.
- Birth: circa __ ___ 1648
_______________, _______________, _______________, England.
- Marriage? __ ___ ____
- Death: __ ___ ____
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- F
Sally Ann
MOORMAN
- Birth: circa __ ___ 1650
_______________, _______________, _______________, England.
- Marriage? __ ___ ____
- Death: __ ___ ____
- Burial: __ ___ ____
__________________________________________________________________________
- M
Thomas
MOORMAN
(Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(web site; FTW; no sources available.)
- Biography: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________; Thomas one of Zachariah's sons, a vestryman of
St. Peter's Parish, New Kent county, was living with his wife,
Elizabeth, and three children in that county in 1671.
- Note: For Thomas to have three
children in 1671, he must have been born earlier than 1658. The
1648 is more likely correct. **map** (Ambrose, Charles C.
Moorman Ancestors, p. 4.)
- Research: __ ___ ____
_______________, _______________, _______________,
_______________;
- THOMAS MOORMAN of New Kent Co. and
ELIZABETH ???
- by Linda Sparks Starr
- MAR 1996
- [In the interest of making headway
on this family, I've decided
- to examine only those parts of the
MOORMAN/CLARK legend which can
- be supported with primary
documents. The early vestry book for
- Upper Parish, Nansemond Co. was
destroyed; therefore there is no
- source for an Anglican vestryman
Thomas Moorman in that parish.
- I've searched many SC records; he
was NOT a landed proprietor
- there as some earlier researchers
said. Therefore I begin this
- study in New Kent Co. VA. LSS]
- The first appearance in VA of THIS
Thomas Moorman MAY BE the one
- claimed by Capt. James Turner as
one of his headrights in his JUN
- 1670 patent, book 6. [Nugent
Cavaliers & Pioneers, vol. 2] What
- makes this entry so intriguing is
Capt. Turner received land in
- New Kent Co. on "both sides Horse
Path at Mahexem and upon up
- per side Whyting Branch". Doug
Tucker, who used Nugent to plot
- CLARK and MOORMAN lands, says
"our" Thomas Moorman eventually
- settled near Whiting Swamp and in
the vicinity of the Mehexem (or
- Matrexem) path. Mary Stewart
emphasizes we CAN NOT ASSUME ANY
- THING about the people listed as
"transported" on patent records.
- This person MAY NOT BE "our"
Thomas; he MAY / MAY NOT have been
- an indentured servant of Capt.
Turner's.
- The above reference is the only
MOORMAN (including all variant
- spellings) in the index to
Nugent's volume 2; Charles is the only
- MOORMAN in the index to volume 3.
Thus, Thomas did not acquire
- his land via the headright /
patent route. This study and the one
- on son Charles will show Thomas
Moorman and his sons remained in
- the same area for 30 plus years.
Therefore, I think we can
- safely assume he eventually
acquired land. With the loss of all
- will and deed records for New Kent
Co., just "how" he acquired
- land as well as "how much" is lost
forever.
- The cycle from indentured servant
to landowner is explained in A
- Place in Time: Middlesex County,
VA 1650-1750, by (historians)
- Darrett B. and Anita Rutman,
Norton:NY 1984 ISBN 0-393-01801-6,
- page 75: "Freed servants rented or
cropped to obtain the
- wherewithal to buy, then sold or
rented part of what they bought
- to obtain the wherewithal to
develop the rest." They explained
- this system began falling apart in
1670. As the number of im
- ported slaves increased, the
number of white indentured servants
- decreased. Down the road, this
meant fewer newly freed servants
- to rent a portion of the newly
purchased land from those who ar
- rived before them. The other
possibilities for acquiring land
- were: outright purchase from an
individual, inheritance and mar
- riage. Thomas is the first
documented MOORMAN in the area so
- it's probably safe to say he
didn't inherit the land from his
- father; every other possibility is
open for consideration.
- This brings us to 1677 and the
first primary source for "our"
- Thomas Moorman. When King Charles
II heard about Bacon's Rebel
- lion and extent of Gov. Berkeley's
punishment of the offenders,
- he (? what else) appointed a
commission to get to the bottom of
- everything. The Commissioners went
around the countryside meet
- ing with settlers, asking them to
compile a list of grievances
- for the King. In his 50 plus page
forward to the 1935 edition of
- his Vestry Book of Blisland
Parish..., Chamberlayne names all 87
- signers at the "north church".
- Thomas Mooreman's name appears
page xlv along with his neighbors
- based on the first St. Peter's
parish processioning list. To
- have a grievance April 1677,
SUGGESTS he was "on the ground" ear
- lier. The Rutmans suggest the
cause of the rebellion was a
- build-up of frustration -- higher
taxes, lower tobacco prices,
- weather related crop failures -- a
general feeling of things
- going from bad to worse.
- Another specific reference to
Thomas Moorman is found in
- Chamberlayne's Vestry Book of St.
Peter's Parish, New Kent Co.
- 1684-1786, page 21. This
apparently is the first time the vestry
- was divided into precincts for
processioning boundary lines.
- Thomas's immediate neighbors in
1689 were: Char. Brya[], Char.
- Bostick, Chris. Baker, Tho.
Moorman, Tho. Snead, Jam. Moor, Edw.
- Qorill / Dorill.
- Of these people, Charles Bostike
signed the 1677 grievance im
- mediately before Thomas Mooreman.
Others of similar surnames, but
- whose signatures on the list were
farther from Thomas's, include:
- Henry Snead, James Moore and
Edward Dorrell. Thus we can say
- with certainty that the Thomas
Mooreman of 1677 is the same Tho.
- Moorman in 1689. These people
didn't move; the new St. Peter's
- Parish boundary line just took
them in.
- Long-term leasing is one thing,
but surely in 12 to 15 years,
- Thomas saved enough to buy his own
tract of land that passed to
- his sons. The names of near
neighbors on the above processioning
- list re-appear in the first three
St. Paul's processioning lists
- -- 1708, 1711, and 1716 -- as near
neighbors of sons Charles and
- Andrew Moorman.
- The Rutmans, page 145: "The
possession of land and wealth were
- clearly vital elements ... Those
without land ... were virtually
- excluded from public tasks ...
colony law restricted jury duty
- and the like to 'freeholders,' few
who did not own or hold long
- term leases to property were
selected ... Among the eighty-four
- men active in 1700 ... only three
came from the bottommost level
- of free society, one serving as a
sexton, two as appraisers."
- Without New Kent court records,
we'll never know if Thomas was
- asked to appraise estates or serve
on juries. The only time his
- name appears in Chamberlayne's
abstract of vestry records is the
- above processioning list.
- Now lets go to The Parish Register
of Saint Peter's, New Kent Co.
- VA from 1680 to 1787, published
Richmond: 1904 by Colonial Dames
- of America. Page 22 is the primary
source for Thomas's wife and
- two of his children: "Mary, ye dau
of Thomas Moreman and
- Elizabeth his wife bapt ye 29th
day of Aug 1686" and "Andrew,
- son of Tho Moorman bapt ye 4 day
of Nov 1689".
- Family legends differ on son
Charles' birthyear. I SUGGEST
- Charles was the older son, either
born in Blisland Parish whose
- earliest register book is not
extant, or more probably in St.
- Peter's Parish. The earliest
extant pages were obviously
- deteriorated when abstracted one
hundred years ago; large por
- tions of written entries are
missing -- especially the birth
- years. Even though the title of
the book says "1680", it's impos-
- sible to say in what year the
first surviving entries were made.
- I SUGGEST whole pages of the very
earliest entries are missing
- altogether -- including Charles'
birth / baptism record. Based on
- three years between Mary and
Andrew's baptism dates and the
- "usual" two between births, I
PROJECT Charles' birthyear as c1683
- to c1684.
- What is the Anglican policy on
infant baptism? The St. Peter's
- entry for Mary and Andrew
specifically says "baptized" not born.
- Could Mary and Andrew have been
older than assumed when they
- were baptized? Although Mary and
Andrew are the only "proven"
- children of this couple, ALL
genealogies except Bro. Ambrose Moor-
- man name Charles as a son. Doug
Tucker proposes another son
- Thomas (1688-1782) (hereafter
"Jr.") to explain / identify the
- parentage of Thomas Moorman
(hereafter "III") who was raising his
- family in North Carolina
mid-1750s. [I'm out of my depth here,
- but I present Doug's case for
those researching these MOORMANs.)
- In his MOORMAN / TUCKER FAMILY IN
AMERICA study, page 8, Doug
- says this Thomas (Jr.) and the
above Andrew, younger brothers of
- Charles, "led a small Quaker
migration ... south to newly opened
- lands along what later became the
North Carolina/South Carolina
- border. Thomas (Jr.) settled in
Anson County, NC and Andrew
- settled across the (future) border
in Marlboro County, SC."
- Doug added a bit more about this
Thomas Jr. in his study on Fran
- cis Clark and his Children. Coming
forward one more generation,
- Doug begins with a Thomas (III)
who married Sarah CLARK; the
- births of their nine children were
recorded in Cane Creek Meeting
- between 1754 and 1768. Doug says
Moorman records say Thomas (III)
- was the youngest son of Thomas
(Jr.) b. 1688 who reportedly
- married Elizabeth CLARK, daughter
of the elusive Micajah and
- Sallie Ann (Moorman). Thomas Jr.
and Elizabeth had three sur
- viving children: Andrew b. 1718,
Benjamin b. 1722 and Thomas III
- b. 1730.
- Back to Virginia. Neither Thomas
Sr. nor Charles appears on The
- Quit Rents of VA: 1704, compiled
by Annie Laurie Wright Smith,
- GenPubCo: 1980. Doug's
understanding is, "only land 'granted'
- free by the Colony was assessed
quit rent. Land purchased from
- the Crown by cash payment, or
equivalent, was generally assessed
- quit rent for three years after
which no more rent had to be
- paid. Land acquired in private
transactions generally remained
- on the quit rent rolls until the
owner 'bought' the land from the
- colonial government in which case
it was removed from the quit
- rent rolls." If Doug is correct,
the absence of Thomas' name on
- this list cannot be used as a
"death by" record.
- Thomas Sr's name does not appear
on the first processioning order
- for St. Paul's Parish -- 1708. [Chamberlayne,
Vestry Book of St.
- Paul's Parish, Hanover Co. VA
1706-1786]. I think this record can
- be used as a "death by" record;
therefore, he died before 1708.
- The very last time we have a
record for him is Andrew's baptism,
- NOV 1689. I hesitate to GUESS at
his birth / death years, but
- logical dates seem to be birth in
the 1650s and death late 1690s
- / early 1700s.
- As I see it, we have no primary
source for Charles or Thomas Jr.
- as sons of Thomas and Elizabeth.
However, I think a good
- "preponderance of evidence" case
for Charles as son can be made
- -- and has been made by Doug
Tucker -- by comparing the St.
- Paul's processioners with 1689 St.
Peter's processioners and even
- the 1677 signers in Blisland
Parish. [I will get more into this
- in my future update on Charles. I
leave the NC MOORMANs to other
- researchers. LSS]
- In his February 24, 1996 study of
the Moorman land records, Doug
- located the MOORMAN property in
"the general vicinity of the up
- per reaches of Whiting Swamp
(which joins Matadequin Creek just
- before the latter enters the
Pamunkey River)." In other words,
- near the Pamunkey River.
- This is important, for SIMPSON is
suggested by some as a LIKELY
- (not proven) surname for
Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Moorman. On
- page 7, Doug says an "Edward
Simpson lived directly across the
- Pamunkey River [from Thomas] along
Simpson's Creek in an area com-
- monly known as Pamunkey Neck. In
the late 1600's, Pamunkey Neck
- was part of New Kent Co. and St.
Peter's Parish and a ferry was
- established across the Pamunkey to
connect the sparsely settled
- Neck ... with the area south of
the Pamunkey ... the presence of
- a Simpson family in the immediate
neighborhood lends a bit of
- credence to the scant evidence
that SIMPSON was the maiden name
- of Thomas' wife."
- The Simpsons weren't there in
1689, however, for the first St.
- Peter's processioning list
specifically names the nineteen
- families living on Pamunkey Neck.
Even though only 19 (probably
- fewer) families lived on the Neck
1680, the very first entry in
- the St. Peter's vestrybook charged
William Atkinson with keeping
- the parish ferry for benefit of
the few inhabitants who lived
- north of the Pamunkey River. The
SIMPSONs not being there in
- 1689 is not that relevant, for
Thomas Moorman and Elizabeth were
- married c1682 IF Charles is the
oldest child. To date, we've
- found no primary source for
Elizabeth's surname
- (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/reports/thsmorma.txtt;
downloaded 25 March 2007.)
- Birth: __ ___ 1658
_______________, Isle of Wight, Hampshire Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Marriage: __ ___ 1683 Elizabeth
Macajah SIMPSON (b. 1659, d. ); _______________, Green Springs,
Louisa Co., VA; This may be a second wife, as other sources show
Charles born 29 August 1670; Mary b. August 1686, and Andrew b.
1689, with Thomas and Micajah born between Charles and Mary. They
also show a wife named Elizabeth Clark (Pete Douglass; edouglass@home.com;
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(Tillman, Thomas Moorman of the Isle of Wight, England, p.
9.)
- Son: before __ ___ 1686 Charles
MOORMAN; _______________, Green Springs, New Kent Co., VA (Pete
Douglass; edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.)
(unknown author, "E-Mail message," e-mail to unknown recipient,
Stewart, Mary E.; mstewart@kaballero.com; 20 June 2005.).
- Death: __ ___ ____
_______________, Green Springs, New Kent Co., VA (Pete Douglass;
edouglass@home.com; http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dourlassec&id=I0396.).
- Burial: __ ___ ____
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